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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 9, 2024

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Same here. A woman who knows her price and sells herself for it is much more respectable than the average liberal western woman who acts as a free prostitute for multiple men in her teens and twenties before "settling down" (they'll all deny that they were used as free prostitutes both at the time and later down the line, but I see that as just another ego defense mechanism). I wish Lily Philips all the best and respect her more than most XX westerners.

free prostitute

How, exactly, is that not a contradiction in terms‽

These women are selling their bodies (so prostituting themselves) to men they find desirable with the hope that he will stick with them long term. For a lot of these women the only thing of value they truly have to offer is their body which the man is paying nothing for. Therefore he's getting the same services as he would be if he had gotten himself a prostitute, but it's free. Hence the free prostitute.

Of course this artifice by the woman usually goes wrong and the man leaves her, after which she calls him an "asshole" to whomever will listen and within a few months moves on to the next guy where the story repeats until she becomes totally disillusioned with men/some schmuck who's willing to pay above market price keeps her long term.

If the above argument isn't convincing to you because you require that a prostitute gets paid for her trade then here is another argument for what exactly I mean here: Consider an expensive escort and a cheap whore. I'm sure you agree that both of these people fall under the umbrella of "prostitute". You can think of some smooth function which takes as argument the price you pay and returns the corresponding hooker at that price point, so if you feed it a low price you get the cheap whore and if you feed it a very high price you get, well, Aella, with a smooth gradient in between.

Now keep reducing the payment price and and take the limit as it approaches 0. Every element of this sequence is a cheaper and cheaper whore (because you're paying less and less). That final limit, even though it may not be a prostitute according to your definition (the set of prostitutes is not closed) is what I mean by a free prostitute and what I think is a decent descriptor for your average modern liberal western woman (because even the cheap whore knows her worth and doesn't sell herself for less than it while the average modern liberal western woman sells herself for free).

Note: this doesn't mean I am against women who like to have lots of sex for the sake of sex because they find it fun. I respect them a lot too because they are willing to break the mold and get what they want. They display a certain will to power which is often sorely lacking among members of their sex. Unfortunately this description does not apply to many modern liberal western women no matter how much they tell themselves it does.

I would respect a women who slept with 50 men because she genuinely wanted to experience sex with lots of other people a lot more than a woman who slept with 50 men because they were all extra attractive and she wanted (but failed) to bag one of them. And I would respect this particular women a lot more still than a women who slept with 50 men because her friends and the prevailing culture she's immersed in told her that this was the good and right thing to do which is another particular brain worm infecting the modern liberal western female mind but that's a discussion for another day.

That's called young women being naive, not being prostitutes. Yes these young women are very foolish, but seriously believing commitment is the price of sex is, literally, what separates a proper lady from a public woman.

They have always been naive, but this behavior is new.

I recall a '40s born writer in a novel describing toilet sex between people who met themselves on a trip as utterly disgusting and low class.

Now sex on first date is allegedly common.

On one hand, sure, there's probably a signal there.

On the other hand, this comment immediately reminded me of "Train Kept a Rollin", which I thought was first recorded in 1956 by Johnny Burnette: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hbw_jI4S924&pp=ygUjdHJhaW4ga2VwdCBhIHJvbGxpbiBqb2hubnkgYnVybmV0dGU%3D Upon closer investigation, the actual original was in 1951, by Tiny Bradshaw, and rather less suggestive to my ear: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ci4EQDD4CqA&pp=ygUYdHJhaW4ga2VwdCBhIHJvbGxpbiAxOTUx

The signal is a lot less informative when half of the people do it.

And christ, that Burnette version is nasty, in all kinds of ways.

Yeah, guys were just figuring out that electric guitars could do more than just be heard over the horns, they were futzing around with vacuum tubes in the amps and stabbing speakers with pencils and suchlike to get fuzz.

The Sonics (1960ish): https://youtube.com/watch?v=7hAT-Lz7M_g&pp=ygUUdGhlIHNvbmljcyBib3NzIGhvc3M%3D

Link Wray (1958): https://youtube.com/watch?v=ucTg6rZJCu4&pp=ygUGcnVtYmxl

Also see the guitar sound on "Rocket 88" (1953) and first comment on the video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Gbfnh1oVTk0&pp=ygUJcm9ja2V0IDg4

This is because young women have more freedom to do stupid things. This is not in their interests, of course, but 'why did naive young women not put out in 1940 when they do today' has an answer and it isn't 'there was a war on' nor is it 'because today they don't think they should get commitment for sex'.

Yeah. But we live in a liberal society that pretends we're all equal in our decision making ability.

So very noble and conveniently also allows for the exploitation of the weak minded and willed by the clever and the ruthless.

Yes, because of the sexual revolution. Whether that was or remains in women’s interest is a different question entirely.

Women who have sex with men in the hopes the man will then commit. Attractive men have several such orbiting and enjoy the sex, the sadistic ones probably also the desperation.

Men who orbit women get used as objects of emotional labor, women who orbit men get used as objects of sexual labor. Says something about people, doesn't it?