srf0638
10d ago
In a heavily hispanic state like California, I'm surprised they're not
They are. (They're also generally less susceptible to poison oak.). They're certainly not underrepresented, and extra certainly not in Socal.
srf0638
11d ago
the most effective air assets
I dunno tbh. I guess if you're paying war-surplus prices everything is more cost-effective, and scooper types probably are the best of a bad lot if you have a suitable body of water around. But neither aerial water or retardant works all that well for the money in heavy fuels or high winds.
srf0638
11d ago
The 10am policy wasn't late 20th century, particularly environmentalist-aligned (the Forest Service has historically been a timber agency), or unique to California (see e.g. pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20070810191055/http://www.nifc.gov/fire_policy/docs/chp1.pdf).
I'm not going to say that it's impossible to carry out RX in steep chaparral surrounded by structures, but it's a lot more technically challenging than cleaning up long-needle litter or dead grass.
srf0638
11d ago
Flat, road access (and roads to use as containment features), water supply/draft sites, and to an extent fuel type. And Socal chaparral isn't really adapted to low-intensity burns the way some coniferous forests and grasslands are--if it burns, it's gonna be at a high intensity and challenging to control.
srf0638
11d ago
Pine Barrens have some potential, maybe: https://archive.is/ZdeSh
srf0638
11d ago
It's happened before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland_firestorm_of_1991
People like living around trees.
srf0638
21d ago
See, this is fairly compelling! Thanks.
most boys’ idols seem to have been older brothers, fathers, upperclassmen, teachers, fashionable young men around town
Many of whom were at least locally distinguished in folk sports (e.g. wrestling), it seems to me, but this is of course quite different than modern spectator sport culture.
srf0638
22d ago
Nothing I've said is a knock-down argument against your historical claim, but you're scarcely providing any argument for it either, just a lot of pointing and spluttering about "kids today" and bald assertions that it couldn't possibly have been so in days gone by (coupled with trivialities about modern mass media and so on). As a side note, projecting the modern concept of childhood back to a time when midshipmen were routinely commissioned at 13 is a chancy business.
some man developed a reputation for being good
At least in boxing, it was a good deal more than that. Champions dined with royals, drew aristocratic sinecures, and seem to have been household names (to the extent that any names were household names in a pre-mass-media era). John Gully, for one, became an MP. I recall references to news of prizefights and cricket matches being avidly sought after by East India Company men. All very recognizable.
invest significant childhood time on competitive sports
"Significant" and "competitive" are rather weaselly words, but the aristocratic boarding schools certainly expected participation in their house games (Rugby football was officially codified in the 1830s and played for generations before that) and it doesn't seem to have been uncommon for aristocratic scions to play nationally competitive amateur cricket by at least the 1830s. Have you read Tom Brown's Schooldays? Well worth it for its own sake, and may shed some light on early 19th century British sporting culture. Hell, I'd recommend Boxiana as well, albeit perhaps as toilet reading due to its episodic nature.
maybe pugilism was prosocial
I make no claims whatsoever about pro- or anti-sociality, to be clear.
srf0638
22d ago
If you were a child in the 1800s you would look up to an historical hero, a national hero, or possibly some business titan
I dunno. Britain had a recognizable celebrity culture around boxing (see e.g. Pierce Egan's Boxiana) and cricket (Aubrey-Maturin, Flashman--by convention the only legitimately citable fiction) by 1805 or so. My initial reaction was to wonder whether the same thing was in the water supply in America, or whether instead this was an under-discussed difference between the two. Thinking about it some more, though, I reckon that this stuff is properly considered as adjacent to animal sports (a famous early boxer was even nicknamed the Game Chicken), which were surely popular in the colonies--Andrew Jackson bred racehorses and so forth. Which doesn't necessarily contradict your point.
srf0638
28d ago
The nice thing about lifting is that it's almost always possible to do something productive that doesn't piss off the injury. (In an endurance context, similarly, a well-known triathlon coach says "as a multisport athlete, you usually have at least one that's going well."). ROM, tempo, exercise selection, upper body pump on the machines, whatever. John Sarno's concrete advice and explanations are probably wrong but he's probably mostly right in spirit. The Painscience.com guy is also pretty good. While I can't endorse Starting Strength as an organization, I appreciate having been exposed to Rip's attitude about injury (it happens, it heals, there's usually something you can do to keep moving) early in my personal physical culture history. My training injuries don't generally hurt that much, the distress comes from not knowing when or if I'll be able to get back to what I was doing, so knowing that I can still do something alleviates my distress considerably.
I agree with @gog about physical therapy, with one sorta-caveat--a good physical therapist can help calm you down if you're spun up and suggest exercise modalities that don't piss off the injury. The downside is that you generally don't know who's going to do this and who's going to give you a stream of soothing babble and, like, Graston therapy and icing until you've shopped around a bit.
srf0638
1mo ago
Kinda curious, if you know that
a lightly modified version of the Greyskull LP, 1g protein per lb. of lean body weight, creatine, and sufficient rest
is what you want, why bother with a personal trainer?
srf0638
1mo ago
Yeah, guys were just figuring out that electric guitars could do more than just be heard over the horns, they were futzing around with vacuum tubes in the amps and stabbing speakers with pencils and suchlike to get fuzz.
The Sonics (1960ish): https://youtube.com/watch?v=7hAT-Lz7M_g&pp=ygUUdGhlIHNvbmljcyBib3NzIGhvc3M%3D
Link Wray (1958): https://youtube.com/watch?v=ucTg6rZJCu4&pp=ygUGcnVtYmxl
Also see the guitar sound on "Rocket 88" (1953) and first comment on the video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Gbfnh1oVTk0&pp=ygUJcm9ja2V0IDg4
srf0638
1mo ago
If you haven't read The Pale King, it may be consoling. Or infuriating, it could go either way.
srf0638
1mo ago
On one hand, sure, there's probably a signal there.
On the other hand, this comment immediately reminded me of "Train Kept a Rollin", which I thought was first recorded in 1956 by Johnny Burnette: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hbw_jI4S924&pp=ygUjdHJhaW4ga2VwdCBhIHJvbGxpbiBqb2hubnkgYnVybmV0dGU%3D Upon closer investigation, the actual original was in 1951, by Tiny Bradshaw, and rather less suggestive to my ear: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ci4EQDD4CqA&pp=ygUYdHJhaW4ga2VwdCBhIHJvbGxpbiAxOTUx
She might do better to find a physically active hobby that she enjoys and/or a physically demanding performance goal that she cares about enough to train for. Or just integrating a higher level of activity into her daily routine (though this is obviously contingent on logistics)--self-propelled commuting and/or errands, treadmill desk, whatever. A modest actuarial improvement in health outcomes is not enough to motivate most people to do something that would otherwise be pointless.
I'd also not expect much change in her appearance/body composition merely from starting to exercise. Lots of people can quite easily eat enough to keep up with whatever energy output they can sustain. If she's not bound and determined to change her physique, her physique probably isn't going to change much.
Alternatively, get her into a punishment/humiliation kink and have her do burpees and tuck jumps and so on as punishment, as per a greentext that I can't find at the moment.
srf0638
1mo ago
I generally see the smarty pants contrarian "reduce MD salaries" suggestion paired with a proposal to change the training pipeline, notably by going straight to med school instead of making it a postgraduate program (which I gather is how things work in much of the rest of the Western world.). I don't know whether other countries run their residencies like the US does but presumably worth looking into as well.
srf0638
1mo ago
old-time pugilists and rockstars had: chemical enhancement to aid that greater grind.
You think boxers used to be on more effective drug stacks than they are now? I'm quite skeptical of this for any sense of "used to", but particularly a sense of "used to" that includes, like, John L. Sullivan. For that matter, I'd be sort of surprised if it was true for musicians either.
srf0638
1mo ago
One I remember was about consumption in New York
I don't have a link handy, but I seem to recall it being demonstrated to my satisfaction that what the Fire in a Bottle guy and the Slime Mold Time Mold guy were presenting as evidence of high historical calorie consumption failed to account for food wasted rather than eaten. Like annual production divided by number of people or something.
srf0638
2mo ago
you can at any time go join an Amish community
I don't believe that this is in fact true; they don't take converts.
srf0638
2mo ago
Being able to spin fast without spazzing out is a learnable skill especially on flat pedals, one-leg drills and so on, but outside of some fairly specific applications I endorse all this.
For the viewing amusement of the board, here's a trackie hitting some high revs on rollers: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZiVa0zTRHJk&pp=ygUOMjUwcnBtIHJvbGxlcnM%3D
srf0638
2mo ago
The specific example is interesting. I don't notice a damn thing from NSAIDs for pain that can reasonably be assumed to be inflammatory, and IIRC they're indistinguishable from placebo for osteoarthritis pain.
srf0638
2mo ago
obtaining military experience
I won't commit myself to the project of enumerating counterexamples to all of these, but this specifically reminded me of the entertaining story of Paul Douglas, best known as Cobb's opposite number in the eponymous production function: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Douglas_(Illinois_politician)
https://www.strongfirst.com/community/threads/acl-reconstruction-acl-rehab-without-surgery.21455/#post-399283
Strongfirst is a goon show but Prevost is the real deal. It sure doesn't sound like your boy needs surgery.
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