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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 2, 2024

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Firstly thanks for remaining me to post it on the right thread, I posted it on an older thread and got no views lol

My understanding is a little rudimentary. Woke isn't like Marxism, it doesn't have a single point of authority defining it so I would assume that most just describe the far left bent with it. I want to discuss this too but getting a correct definition down that people agree with is the first thing one needs to do to.

Obsession with oppressed oppressor dynamic is a good rough definition but it seems to lack something.

The right has a lot of hateful losers, no doubt about that. James made a mistake in picking fights with well meaning smart people who understand his worldview better than him.

Carl, and a lot of 2019 liberals (myself included), had their break with liberalism so I don't know if this is completely fair.

I discovered Moldbug that year thanks to the distributist on YouTube. People just want to uncover truth and have nice things. For a while 90s liberalism seemed amazing. The post sexual revolution US that has something for all is still seen as this nostalgic landmark but these are unstable positions. I agree with Yarvin on most issues and do look forward to a post liberal liberalism or discourse on it.

What do you think is a good definition of woke? Also because of the right getting some footing, punching right is now not seen as a good thing to do, Lindsay really made a mistake.

Woke isn't like Marxism, it doesn't have a single point of authority defining it so I would assume that most just describe the far left bent with it.

Marxism also doesn’t have “a single point of authority defining it.” It’s a whole corpus of thought, with hundreds of writers (maybe thousands) chiming in and adding their analysis and refinement of other writers’ ideas. It’s like how Christianity has long transcended sola scriptura and includes a massive world of commentary and schisms and church authorities and whatnot. “Woke”, to the extent that the word is anything other than a boo light, undoubtedly refers to a specific offshoot or sect of Marxism.

Sola Scriptura is actually extremely rare in Christianity; both Catholic and Orthodox Christians believe their church predates the codification and indeed writing of the scriptures and doctrine-heavy protestants in practice hold to definite-enough interpretations of scripture that tradition and church authority play a strong role(and have for a very long time; the Augsburg confession was literally written by Martin Luther). But almost all of these Christian branches have a single point of authority defining them, indeed rather notoriously so in the case of Catholicism.

The Protestants would also affirm that their church predates the codification and writing of the scriptures (at least of the new testament).

The Augsburg confession was written by Melanchthon. Edit: Luther did play a role in its drafting.

But this is pretty close to being true, at least, if you're construing sola scriptura as talking about use of other authorities in general, rather than whether there exist other final authorities accessible to the modern church.