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U.S. Election (Day?) 2024 Megathread

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My buddy's weird pastor was telling me the other day over beers that based on his reading of biblical text Trump is the prophesied antichrist ushering in the end times.

On the one hand the end times are god's will, so both pointless and bad to oppose. But on the other, the antichrist is bad and should be opposed, right?

So assuming Trump is the antichrist, should a prophetically inclined Christian prefer to have voted for or against him?

Check out some lore here (fact-checked by real American gematria-informed astrologers). It also brings in the all-important 9/11 predictions and Back to the Future: https://x.com/DonnieDarkened/status/1466212244316905474

And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.” Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.

I would not want to risk it.

Prophetically inclined Christians would be aware that Jesus was very clear about his coming will be like a thief in the night, and that no one knows about that day or hour, not even himself, but only the Father knows.

sadly, I know waaaaay too many Christians devouring media insisting that the Rapture is happening any day now.

"sure, sure, but if you use the middle letter of this book with this complex and arbitrary system of numerology, bam, you crack the whole thing wide open!"

I like Trump but I don’t rule it out.

I chose to abstain from voting on this basis, although I still think he's less likely to cause a Revelation-grade catastrophe in the near future than Harris would have. (I associate Mystery Babylon, and the Whore of Babylon, with America, and Harris would fit the bill, although the Whore doesn't need to be a specific individual to represent the country.)

To answer your question: Christians prefer not to vote for the antichrist.

My understanding is the Antichrist is supposed to be a military man of some sort, which Trump is decidedly not

I generally believe that the most important aspect of biblical end times prophecy is the specific statement in Matthew 24:36 that no one knows when it will happen. So I'm generally of the opinion that we won't be able to interpret these prophecies except in retrospect.

Obviously there's meta concerns but I'll just ignore those.

Also, the Antichrist is supposed to be universally popular, which pew research indicates Trump's appeal falters hugely on the international level.

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