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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 4, 2024

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Hey, another "You can't post that, it's boo outgroup". Employees of the current party in power did that thing they do again, where they openly express their hatred and willingness to hurt people like me.

EXCLUSIVE: FEMA Official Ordered Relief Workers To Skip Houses With Trump Signs

A FEMA supervisor told workers in a message to “avoid homes advertising Trump” as they canvassed Lake Placid, Florida to identify residents who could qualify for federal aid, internal messages viewed by The Daily Wire reveal. The supervisor, Marn’i Washington, relayed this message both verbally and in a group chat used by the relief team, multiple government employees told The Daily Wire.

I know, it's not the smoking gun that the whole FEMA effort in Appalachia was slow walked because those people vote wrong. But it's yet another data point that, no, seriously, these people hate you and will do anything in their petty bureaucratic power to make your life worse because you vote wrong.

Several would-be very funny people reported you with "He can't post that, it's boo outgroup."

Of course it's not "boo outgroup" to post an actual argument, without being inflammatory and rage-stroking over it, which is why this post is not being modded.

But you knew that. You always know what you're doing. You just pretend to be confused when you get modded for ranting about "Biblical plagues of retards" and the like.

Carry on.

The last post I made citing numerous government policies, and claiming the government hated me and wantes to deatroy me, you just told me "Stop it" with no further explanation. Theories in the thread were just that i was breaking "boo outgroup" or "consensus building". So no, I dont know.

To steelman Marn'i Washington's likely mindset, Marn'i was probably hopped up on Oct 14-ish news articles portraying "Trumpers" as "planning to shoot at FEMA workers." This is not Marn'i's fault: the journalists covering this were sensationalizing what looks like just a few claims of threats against aid workers. Marn'i was merely brainwashed by the information made available.

I thought the steelman would be something like the message was in related to FEMA media shots and they wanted to avoid political signage in the media they produced and for some reason they mistakenly said 'Trump signs' instead of 'political signage'.

That's less of a steelman and more of an indictment of competence that would be entirely Marn'i's fault.

Setting aside that the 'FEMA is at risk' reporting was for an entirely different state over a fear that didn't happen and in which FEMA activities were re-implemented, and thus not a credible fear in Florida, the broader issue is that the mitigation measure doesn't pass muster. If there is a safety fear in a neighborhood/area, then the safety mitigation is to prevent any personnel from going into the area until you have security, not avoiding specific houses. You are still in gunshot range of a danger house if you knock at the house next door.

Marni's is a person with agency, not a brainwashed thrall, and unfortunately their competence was quite low.

who wrote in the government system messages such as: “Trump sign no entry per leadership.”

What a brilliant way to make a paper trail that's less deniable than whistleblowing that would be dismissed as "claims without evidence." If your boss doesn't overrule you, he's nailed himself she/her has nailed herself.

To be fair though I wouldn't want to be knocking at Trump houses in a Florida swamp going "Hi, this is FEMA. Before you ask, yes these are level 4 plates, but I'm out of spares so please don't aim for the cracked bits"

Lots of leftists basically think Deliverance was a documentary and have a statistically unjustified fear of rural white Republicans. I don't doubt that some FEMA workers really were afraid to knock on the door of homes with Trump signs.

Yes, I honestly can't blame them given how hard we've leaned into menacing banjo music intensifies to goad this exact sort of ovaryaction, see "your face, my mace" etc.

Except that there were no such shootings. It literally never happened, and to my knowledge no one actually pointed a gun at anyone working for FEMA. The idea that they were worried about getting shot is a just-so story.

Second, it is part of the job. The job of a FEMA agent is to get people aid, and “I’m scared” is no more valid for FEMA than it is for the local cops. You don’t get to join a first responders agency and then be too scared to respond. Especially if you’re doing checks on the safety of Americans in a hurricane situation.

Except that there were no such shootings. It literally never happened, and to my knowledge no one actually pointed a gun at anyone working for FEMA. The idea that they were worried about getting shot is a just-so story.

They may not have known that at the time. Something not existing in the territory does not mean it isn't marked on the map.

Second, it is part of the job. The job of a FEMA agent is to get people aid, and “I’m scared” is no more valid for FEMA than it is for the local cops. You don’t get to join a first responders agency and then be too scared to respond. Especially if you’re doing checks on the safety of Americans in a hurricane situation.

A valid point. If the safety concerns were the issue, they should have directed "If a house has a Trump sign, bring backup just in case."

I mean sure, it’s plausible that in some odd universe that it’s possible that someone might pull a gun on a FEMA agent. But again, even with millions of Trump supporters there’s no incident like this. There’s perhaps a need for caution, but there’s a difference between “there have been threats made, so be careful and buddy up” and “avoid houses with [out group] signage because those guys are more likely to be the shooters.

I know, but I've spent the last decade joining in on the "hey ATF, my dog shoots first" thing, and I really hate the "lol you're crazy for hallucinating all those things I said" gaslighting tactic.
Even if they're immoral for doing it, I'm not going to mock someone for taking things I said in jest (steely unironic intent) seriously.

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