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Putting 20k foreigners into your town of 60k is a literal invasion. That community to the extent it exists has been conquered.
I am shocked it hasn’t come to violence.
How do the leaders and police officers sleep at night knowing they’ve cooperated with a complete surrender and probably gotten paid for it too
Why does the mere pressence of foreigners constitute an invasion? They don't control the place. They're not doing anything to the locals.
It’s about numbers and percentages. A handful of foreigners in your town does not represent an invasion. When they begin to comprise a plurality or even a majority of the population of the town, it must be treated as an invasion, even if they haven’t done anything sinister yet, simply because their capacity to assert their will and preferences has now become equal to (or superior to) that of the former majority.
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I have to admit that if the numbers are correct then I am surprised it's not worse. Listening to some of the comments at the town hall it certainly sounds unpleasant, but there wasn't much in the way of actual crimes and shit (no, no one actually cares about the sanctity of the migratory bird treaty act). Lots of "get your government hands off my medicaid" type stuff regarding lines at the welfare office.
Violence will only make it worse in the current political situation. Bearing through it might be the right move.
The whole thing started with a Haitian driving without a license killing an 11yo coming home from school.
A common feature of all these CHNV groups is they have absolute immunity to basic law enforcement. They drive without plates, they drive drunk, they don't have licenses and they certainly don't know how to drive.
All shit people like you and me would go to prison for. basic anarcho-tyranny.
What is "CHNV"?
The migrant flights from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela, where anyone could get a plane ticket to the US paid for by a refugee resettlement agency. It was paused in July due to massive fraud (tens of thousands of fake or dead sponsors), but recently reopened once the heat died down.
It's one of at least two programs that flew migrants directly into the country instead of having them cross the border.
So far it has flown at least half a million people from the worst countries in the world into the US, with zero screening. That Venezuelan gang arrested in Colorado came in that way, iirc. Others have murdered here and it turned out were already wanted for rape and murder in their home countries.
Thank you.
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The guy who did that was sentenced to 9 years in prison.. You would expect one or two traffic fatalities a year from a population of 20,000.
You would not go to prison for driving without a license or without plates either. These are minor offenses.
I would absolutely not get away with driving without a license or plates. I know this because I have friends who have spent time in the county jail for it.
I also know who around here does get away with ignoring almost all laws, from licensing to fire codes to food handling.
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He should be deported.
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If you hit a kid walking home from school and drove off, there's a pretty good chance you'd get away with it. These people's relative immunity from the law is downstream of their willingness to ignore it.
Not if you've registered your car. You only get away with this if you get away with paper plates and no insurance for long periods of time.
Even worthless fuckhead cops will spend 60 minutes looking at traffic cameras to try and spot a license plate after you murder a kid.
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Demoralization propaganda. Resisting is literally unthinkable to anybody who lives there, even the people complaining about it. They'd never dream of arming up, organizing, planning a date, and taking back their civilization. They most they'll do is meekly complain that the federal government should provide more assistance. Even deportation is probably going too far for most of them.
Demoralization is saying the community has been destroyed and the place is conquered. That is only so if you believe it is so.
Community in America barely exist because commercial businesses and government has taken over all the functions of community. As government is failing, if you put put people under enough pressure due to lack of security and it's going to form in the absence of active disruption by state agents.
The people in the city meetings were desperate. Removing the Haitians somewhere else isn't "too far".
This is silly and relies on the firm beleif that nothing is real. If you live ANYWHERE and your population increase by 33% in a couple of years, from ANY sort of transplant, than any local culture, landscape, services, infrastructure has been irrevocably changed. Maybe one wants to argue that this is a good change and in many cases it is.
But if the dramatic change comes from outside and against the will of the people, wihtout their explicit consultation and approval, they've been 'invaded' so to speak. At least, when it's gentrification, the people who stick around get a better, safer city out of it, and it's generally from their fellow Americans. When it's by true foreigners, it's ridiculous to pretend anything else but invasion.
You can't just absorb a 1/3 population surplus from a completely different country.
I'm not saying it's not happening, but you're saying it's final. It's not final at all.
They can always go back. This has been done plenty of times in history. Germans went west by the million despite centuries long habitation. Bhutan repatriated iirc hundreds of thousands of Nepalese. Fiji repatriated a lot of Indians, enough to secure a comfortable majority for their natives.
And so on.
What do you think would happen to Haitians in the event of a civil war and breakdown? Do you think they'd be nice and considerate suddenly ?
What do you think is going to happen there if there's a serious economic crisis? That that'd improve relations ?
No this isn't going to end well, and it certainly isn't going to end with Haitians happily inhabiting rustbelt by the million, being even worse for the budget than black Americans. It's going to end in tears. America is going to see some bad times and that never helps with diversity.
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