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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 15, 2024

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Covid is actually a danger to octogenarians.

Is it though? Because excess death statistics in most countries don't seem to reflect that.

So is a cold…

You're thinking of the flu, which kills quite a few old people. And covid is worse than the flu. I don't know why right wingers want to downplay covid. Still sore about lockdowns impinging on freedoms in order to save lives, I guess. (Though I don't deny that lockdown regulations were often dumb and ham-handed).

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No im not. Colds can easily turn into pneumonia which is dangerous for someone in Biden’s state.

Covid after the omni variant significantly reduced its danger.

Also lockdowns didn’t save lives. Covid response was massively disproportionate to the actual disease.

It's a bit strange how well Sweden and Florida did so well without lockdowns. Especially given Florida's disproportionately old population. I would have naively thought lockdowns would have some measurable impact on infection rates.

Lockdowns decrease activity, increase isolation, and drive fear. Humans need to move and be social.

For general health and wellbeing yes. But for specifically a respiratory virus that's deadly to old people, no.

I don’t know if that is true. If you are isolated for months at a time, that probably has a bigger impact compared to being out and about.

I’d agree with you if we are talking about weeks. But for many it wasn’t weeks.

Yes, long term isolation is so destructive in so many ways. Especially on little kids. Long lockdowns come at a very heavy price.

My confusion is they didn't also clearly reduce death by respiratory virus. I would have thought that they weren't worth the price, but indeed reduce covid deaths. But they didn't even do that.

After all this, Nancy Pelosi's plan to wander around Chinatown hugging random Chinese people is about as effective as a hard lockdown. Which literally happened in real life.

Still sore about lockdowns impinging on freedoms in order to save lives, I guess.

Yeah, sure, the lockdowns were about saving lives — unless we’re talking about Black Lives, in which case lockdowns no longer work, since The Science said that mass gatherings in order to protest/riot (but only to do those things!) are A-okay.

I will never stop being “sore” about this.

(Edited to expand/clarify: after the shitshow of contradictory statements and lies that our experts subjected us to during 2020 (e.g. masks don’t work, until they do, oh wait only KN95s do but; mass gatherings are bad, unless you’re going to have a BLM march; the vaccine prevents transmission, until it doesn’t), many right-wingers adopted a stance of epistemic learned helplessness, and decided that they wouldn’t believe anything that comes out of these experts’ mouths. Yeah, this leads to dumb conclusions occasionally like “COVID doesn’t exist”. But it’s only a rational response to the maleficence of the adults in the room.)

I’m not saying covid doesn’t exist for the record. I’m saying its potency especially after numerous variants is low.

Not really, its more like getting the flu.

Regardless, if something simple as getting the flu or covid poses a serious risk to you, you have no business being the president or presidential candidate.

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