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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 15, 2024

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European anti-semitism is kind of lindy I guess, but it doesn't exactly stand on its own.

By their own account it's the most ancient prejudice in world history- with an uncanny commonality among enormously wide swathes of historical time and space. It certainly stands on its own, and suppressing it requires an enormous amount of effort, using all the levers of cultural influence and political power. Even that appears to be failing with every passing day.

By their own account it's the most ancient prejudice in world history- with an uncanny commonality among enormously wide swathes of historical time and space. It certainly stands on its own, and suppressing it requires an enormous amount of effort, using all the levers of cultural influence and political power. Even that appears to be failing with every passing day.

I'd like to second @jkf - why don't you just come out and say what's so bad about Jews? "They are powerful and exert enormous cultural influence." And? "People have hated them for thousands of years, it can't be a coincidence, there must be a reason." What reason?

In the past, you've just waved vaguely at assertions that they are waging war against "us" (how?) and that Jewish tribalism is inimical to everyone else (how?) and somehow different from everyone else who has a strong inter-ethnic identity (how?), and maybe someone else will mumble something about Jews being responsible for immigration and no-fault divorce and pornography, which even you say is not really the issue, so - why don't you just take the mask off in this place, one of the few places you can do that, and tell us what makes Jews so terrible that we must fight them?

Jews coordinate their actions to engage in Culture War with gentiles, for the benefit of themselves and at the detriment of their outgroup.

This takes various forms, like the ADL manufacturing a national panic to successfully lobby for hundreds of millions of dollars of handouts from DHS to Jewish NGOS, or it takes the form of cultural and intellectual movements that pathologize white ethnocentrism and elevate Jewish ethnocentrism as a moral imperative, or it takes the form of comic-book heroes that esoterically elevate Jewish moral standing and direct American cultural values in ways that benefit Jews, or it takes the form of Jews in the American government subversively directing America to wage as disastrous war on Iraq for the benefit of Israel, and is now agitating for war with Iran, or it takes the form of direct political action from hundreds of Jewish NGOS which promote immigration and demographic change in the United States and Europe while intensely advocating for Zionism, or it takes the form of Jewish lobbying groups spearheading influential campaigns to systematically censor criticism of themselves and their own behavior across social media. It takes the form of promoting anti-white cultural consciousness in all areas of public life while mobilizing enormous amounts of political and cultural power to suppress any criticism of Jewish behavior. It takes the form of the Holocaust narrative which serves as the founding myth for the entire post-war moral universe we live under today, a moral universe which is propagandized to children every which way and through an enormous catalogue of Holocaust movies which elevates Jewish suffering, using fake atrocity propaganda, as the most important thing in the universe.

Your demand is silly because my posts are collectively criticizing the Jewish engagement in Culture War with Gentiles. Why are you asking this question when you can just read my posts outlining the criticisms I have of Jewish behavior with respect to Culture War? You can accuse me of a lot of things, but accusing me of masking my "true problem" is absurd, I lay it out directly in my posts. My problem is they organize against me, they pathologize ethnocentrism among white people while demanding an intense fealty and commitment of blood and treasure to their own wildly ethnocentric behavior.

So basically (if you can forgive what might be a slightly crude summary) it's that they're successfully engaged in ethnic organization and politics, and you see that political action as being detrimental to your own ethnic block?

Is your objection that the jews are doing these things at the detriment to your ingroup, or is your objection to doing these things at all? Would you feel the same way about gentile whites organizing to their own benefit?

I've made it clear my problem with it is that it's hostile, subversive, and self-serving. If you simply dropped all the Jews in government and media, i.e. replaced Biden's virtually-entirely Jewish cabinet with Indians, and replaced Israeli Nationalist influence with Indian Nationalist influence, replaced the "I" in AIPAC with India, and replaced the Holocaust narrative with some Indian-derived foundational myth of twentieth century morality, I would have the same problem with it.

And it's funny that others here will point to the Indian Question, which is certainly highly relevant, but that question is relevant for the same reason the JQ is relevant times 1000.

What is going to happen when/if our elite apparatus is replaced with hostile foreigners who have deep-seated racial resentment towards white American culture and racial identity? We already know what happens, we're living in that reality right now.

If you simply dropped all the Jews in government and media, i.e. replaced Biden's virtually-entirely Jewish cabinet with Indians, and replaced Israeli Nationalist influence with Indian Nationalist influence, replaced the "I" in AIPAC with India, and replaced the Holocaust narrative with some Indian-derived foundational myth of twentieth century morality, I would have the same problem with it.

If you did the same thing, but instead of jews or indians it was gentile whites, would you have the same problem with it?

American whites did do this for most of the history of the country. No I would not have a problem with it, I do want white people to start to behave more like Jews in this regard. I want them to do what Jews are doing, in equal or greater measure.

That indicates to me that to you, the problem is not that the things you allege jews are doing are "hostile, subversive, and self serving," as you put it. If that was the issue, you wouldn't want gentile whites doing those things either. It seems clear that your issue is the who/whom, not any principled objection.

What would be hostile and subversive is if, somehow, White Gentiles took the levers of cultural and political power in Israel and established a consensus that Jewish identity is evil and anti-White Racism is the biggest evil in the entire world. And then proceeded to replace Jews demographically in Israel, destroying the lives of anyone who dared to protest on the charge of racism.

That would be hostile and subversive, European people acting on their interests in their own Civilization would not be subversive, except to foreign influence that has taken root.

So that's what you're going to go with? "Nothing has changed since the Middle Ages, Jews are bad m'kay"? This is not a convincing platform.

My platform is explained in my commentary, which ranges from issues of history to foreign policy, media, pop-culture, etc. Culture War is not about the latest trans fad, it's about the collective consciousness that orients us in the world. You cannot understand the collective consciousness without understanding this issue.

Your commentary is mostly quibbles about the mechanics of various Nazi policies AFAIR -- maybe the odd other historical digression?

What is bad about the Jews in the here and now? Why should I be concerned?

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