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I simply don't give a shit. I bought a nine year old Prius and drove it into the ground. Then I bought a four year old Prius which I am currently driving into the ground. 60 miles a gallon. Maintenance manual recommends oil changes every 15k miles. That's about all it needs to work flawlessly for 150+k miles. It even has a volume knob.
How much do you care about your pillowcases? You presumably spend more time on them then in your car.
The Prius really is a fantastic car! My first car was a 2004 model, had over 300k miles on it when it finally died (I don’t know the actual # because the odometer broke at 299,999)
You "used Prius" guys, how have the batteries held up? I always understood that that was a major limit to service life, but I might be wrong.
Newer Priuses have a 10 year manufacturer battery warranty, so that counts for something.
My last car was 14 years old when I got rid of it and the batter was still fine (it had other problems I got tired of dealing with).
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Mine definitely degraded with time but did not fail (my catalytic converter went which was ultimately what caused me to ditch the car). mpg went from around 55 at 200 k miles to 42 mpg at 200 k miles). I knew someone who refurbished his battery which cost him relatively little to do (he did it himself). The batteries used to just be a bunch of nicad cells in series and when a battery “went bad” it’s usually just a few cells which can be replaced (cheap to diy, I don’t even know if it’s a service most shops would do).
I’m also unsure how this works with newer Priuses since I think Toyota switched all of their hybrids to lipo batteries in 2016.
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They do eventually go bad, but it is often just 1 or 2 cells, you can just swap those 2 cells and the battery is good again, they are basically made up of lots and lots of laptop battery blades. I've done it with success.
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It's not a great analogy. I understand valuing reliability and low cost of ownership at different levels. Ironically I kinda enjoy driving Priuses - Hybrid powertrains are fun.
I don't know.. I've driven around big comfy cars with hydropneumatic suspension 200kw engines and I've driven the second shittiest ComBloc era car ever - Škoda 120 and if I didn't need to drive long distances I'd buy and use the Škoda.
The extra money doesn't seem like much. Sure you can't overtake in a slow car, but I don't mind driving a bit slower. It's never that slow.
Honestly if I wanted a car I'd want something like a beat up Hilux converted to run on LPG. Saves some on gas (tax is lower still), you can (gently) crash into people and not give a fuck and it's reasonably safe. If it had AC and massive bumpers so running into things at low speed wasn't a worry, each end it'd be ideal.
Looking at my dad go nuts about every new scratch on his shiny new hybrid semi-SUV seems crazy. It's a car - if you have to worry every time you go shopping some cretin will hit your doors with his doors.. ? Is having navigation, a bunch of black boxes that phone home, an integrated cellphone(to phone home) a fucking electronic voice reminding you to use a seatbelt spending an extra €10-15k at the very least?
I don't think so.
You're optimizing your hypothetical car for something besides "niceness", but this is still car-optimization way beyond normie levels and way beyond " used Prius". (Though maybe not as far beyond normie levels as it would be in the US.).
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You're unconscious, but you're still affected by what goes on. I assume you don't sleep on a brick floor.
I've driven teslas and bmws, depending on if you consider that a quality car or not.
Never so much as a speeding ticket.
Well, it would be difficult to drive if I didn't have control, so I guess I do.
So no then?
You need speeding tickets to be a good driver?
Unless you just run from the cops every time.
Every time what? The cops don't give tickets for going over the speed limit if everyone is (around here, anyway).
If not vastly exceeding the speed of traffic makes me a bad driver, I guess I am.
Yes.
I bet you're the kind of guy that never misses an exit.
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Bwahahaha. But I do agree with @sarker I'm mostly a utilitarian driver. I've driven many a prius into the ground. There is something to be said for the thrill of a high end car with nice appointments while you go fast, I do that too. I see the merits of both.
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