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Before I sink my head into my hands in despair, let me just point out that if she's living in a block of flats, it's not just her apartment that is getting infested, now everybody else has a colony of carpet moths that is going to infest their flat.
If she lived in a house on its own, then do your own thing, but when you're living in community with other people, if you're going to worry about ethical implications, then you have to worry about the effects of your actions on others who have not consented to be infested with bloody moths.
This brings me back to the days of my childhood, when my mother used to put mothballs in the wardrobe because yes the damn moths would eat the heavy clothing you weren't going to wear until winter.
You have to be a particular combination of smart, clueless, and insulated from living at the grubbier end of reality to do stuff like this. "Oooh the poor little insects!" Me, I'm grabbing a kettle of boiling water to pour on the ants crossing the threshold.
EDIT: Fucking hell, and pardon the swearing but this is my immediate reaction. What kind of person happily ignores insect larvae in their living space? God Almighty, I was born and raised for the first several years of my life in a country council cottage with no running water or bathroom facilities of any kind, and we had it drummed into us to be clean and not slatternly. This is being slatternly. They should never have stopped corporal punishment in schools.
Well, maybe if you hadn't let the mother-loving moths tra-la-la around your flat until it got to this stage that you were living in filth, you might have avoided this daunting task, but what do I know, I'm just a normie midwit who is too dumb and too poor and too low socio-economic class to work for some 80,000 Hours approved EA earn to give big bucks places.
I'm screaming here. Screaming. Real life re-enactment of a Dario Argento movie. And she's a vegan. Of course she is.
Yes, yes, it’s all very gross and outrageous. That doesn’t suspend our usual rules about civility and restraint.
Please refrain from performative booing at the outgroup. Including your sarcastic “dumb commoner” act below.
It's only partly sarcastic, because I am a dumb commoner by comparison with a lot of the posters on here. But I also think that the entire framework around this girl, her chosen values, where she works and the rest of it are all part of the package that ended up with her choosing to live in a moth infestation and finally ended up causing even more suffering by her attempts to be humane or higher thinking or whatever. So this should cause a reconsideration and reevaluation on her part, and I don't know if it did, since I don't see that in the post she made about it.
I certainly don't mean "stop being EA" but she seems to have doubled down on it; not "okay it would have been better if I took steps at the start to kill the larvae as soon as I noticed the first few" but the self-flagellation over "I genocided these moths, I acknowledge my responsibility for their suffering".
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If Moth Lives Matter, then moths enriching the rest of your community is a feature, not a… bug.
More moths proliferating means greater happiness in the world. Your neighbors should feel good and wholesome from having been blessed with the opportunity to be decent persons and allies in hosting moths, which would also increase the world’s net-happiness.
My living quarters having more than an occasional insect appearance would sound like hell to me.
Much less than a situation where insects and their larvae are omnipresent. This now sounds like a SAW movie torture room. If moths, why not bed bugs, mice then rats?
I accept that we are always going to be sharing living space with critters, be it ants, silverfish, spiders, etc. so the occasional moth or two isn't a big deal, but not when you have visible larvae and the damn moths hatching out of them. I can't understand this.
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I'm confident that her salary at 80000 hours is totally unremarkable, even for England.
Ah yes, but she's earning to give, you see, which is way more superior than being an ordinary working Joe (or Jill) doing a job to pay the bills.
I intend to be only a wee bit sarcastic there.
Your sarcasm is misplaced, because she's not earning to give. People earning to give are not employed by 80000 hours.
It is strange to sneer so excessively without even knowing the details you are sneering about.
Oh, pardon me I don't know the finer points of working while living in an insect-infested house. Remember, I'm just a dumb commoner who isn't smart enough to be EA.
Speak plainly and avoid the boo outgroup posts.
If I knew who my damn outgroup was, I'd boo them. Right now it's looking like the entirety of Western culture as currently constructed, does that make me an anarcho-monarchist or a Maoist? If you can identity the outgroup for me, lemme know.
EDIT:I think mentally I feel as if the late 12th to early 14th century was My Time, so does that make the Ghibellines my outgroup?
If no one is your in-group that makes things very simple, just don't boo anyone.
If no-one is my ingroup, then how can I have an out-group? Or do I practice radical compassion: yes, that German cannibal-murderer is very naughty, but it would be too judgmental of me to even say that he's being naughty. Cannibal-murderers are my out-group but I must not boo them!
Yeah, that's nit-picking. But I'm trying to say that I don't pick "okay, I don't like (spins tombola drum) people with septum piercings who eat quinoa and talk about their fur-babies, let me go search for a story where someone like that did something bad and then go complain about it". If Pope Francis goes out and does something stupid/wicked (sigh, let's not get into the fighting over that), I'll criticise him even though he's my in-group. The day Francis says "you know what? let's burn the gays!" I'll be there saying "No! Bad pope!" with the best (or worst) of them.
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