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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 18, 2023

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They would contaminate us with their policies. Our politics would be to some degree merged with theirs.

Western Canada only has about 12 million people compared to the US's 330 million.

Correct. And 3 or so new blue states would each get a couple senators, a few congresspeople and a corresponding amount of electoral votes. Which could drive American politics in a new direction.

It's the idea that if Texas turns blue then the Republicans are finished. A few successive Democratic administrations with supporting congress will rewrite our laws and stack our courts full of judges who will support them. And the Republican path too electoral victory is to narrow to survive a blue Texas (or blue British Columbia plus Albert plus maybe some more).

Assimilation only happens on US terms. It would quickly overwhelm Canada and bring it in line with US politics.

Most of the distasteful shit (from my perspective anyway - anti-migrant Canadians must hate both parties since I came over in Harper's time...) is Liberal stuff they can get away with because there's no GOP and governmental splits. That changes in the US system.

People keep wrongly thinking the Republican party will be vanquished forever as a contender for president and having a majority of congress if only Texas would drift a bit bluer. The thinking goes that any year now they will be a permanent minority in terms of national elected officials.

If we let large portions of Canada into the US, then eventually they will get to vote for Congressional representatives and president. Then the Republican party will be vanquished forever. Or until they realign in such a way as to capture around half the national level power. Which I characterize as being contaminated by Canadian politics.

Western Canada is HEAVILY covservative, and the most immediate impact would be all the Blue canadians move to blue state for bureaucracy jobs and tons of Red Americans move north for Resource extraction jobs

Canada is so far to the left of the US that a Canadian conservative would still fit comfortably in the Democratic party.

I thought BC was majority social democrats NDP. They aren't about to vote Republican.

But googling a bit I seem to have been off base claiming Alberta would be blue. They might side with Republicans. News headlines are a bit comical about their "hard right turn", etc. Such scary language.

Yukon is surprisingly liberal. As an American I naively wouldn't have guessed.

But maybe I deeply misunderstand Canada. Which I really might. Please no one take my American clicking around on Google as serious understanding of Canadian politics.

No, you're right. At least, as of the 2020 election, Alberta would vote as liberal as New York & Rhode Island in polling done during the 2020 election.

https://www.thewrit.ca/p/how-canada-would-vote-in-a-us-election

Now, maybe that's shifted a lot, but I doubt it. The thing isn't how liberal the rest of the world is, but how right-wing US Republicans are, even compared to even other right-leaning parties in the rest of the developed world.

I thought BC was majority social democrats NDP.

BC is majority social/democrat/NDP in the same way, and for most of the same reasons, as Montana acts under normal conditions. Sure, it's a little different because Montana doesn't have any major cities to completely destroy the balance of power (BC is closer to Washington in this regard, which you can see clearly if you look at the various federal election results for this province), but the outlooks on life are pretty similar.

Yukon is surprisingly liberal. As an American I naively wouldn't have guessed.

The Yukon territory has 40,000 people within its borders; so do the Northwest Territories and Nunavut (contrast 750,000 residents of Alaska). These territories more or less don't exist without being actively sustained by the federal government (including support for the native population up there), and the Liberal party is generally better at this than the Conservatives.

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