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Israel-Gaza Megathread #3
This is a refreshed megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.
"Tide of public opinion" was creation of mass media that decided in Feb 2022 to play up this war as much as possible (instead of ignoring it like, for example, contemporary war in Ethiopia)
We can imagine alternate world where, on February 24, newspapers of record dedicated front pages to latest controversy about drag queens and somewhere on corner of page six was report:
KIEV: Today, Russian forces crossed border of Ukraine in territory disputed between Russia and Ukraine.
Situation is unclear, some local sources report about fights between Russian army and Ukrainian militias.
Russian government says it is involved in limited operation against Jewish Nazi Satanist homosexual terrorists based in disputed territory, and claims it holds no aggressive intent against Ukraine.
Ukrainian government denies presence of Jewish Nazi Satanist homosexual terrorists on Ukraine soil and denounces Russian actions as aggression against Ukraine.
World leaders call for cease-fire and negotiations between all involved parties.
In this world, only people who would be watching Ukraine would be people with relatives in the area and OSINT/war fans, "public opinion" would have different concerns.
I dunno. I kind of like it when Russia doesn’t get what it wants. Not particularly strongly, but more than I care about miscellaneous civil wars. Imagine how the Westerners who actually lived through the Cold War might feel.
I don't think the tide of public opinion can turn for Russia, but there is a recess from the high tide a year ago. And for the war - I have long stated that it is competition who will lose faster. Could as well be Ukraine.
Especially when Ukrainian men can just have to get to one of the borders to be free of subscription
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“It’s a day that ends in Y, could be the tide turning in favor of Russia!”
Do you mean the tide of the war, or the tide of public opinion?
"Tide of public opinion" was creation of mass media that decided in Feb 2022 to play up this war as much as possible (instead of ignoring it like, for example, contemporary war in Ethiopia)
We can imagine alternate world where, on February 24, newspapers of record dedicated front pages to latest controversy about drag queens and somewhere on corner of page six was report:
In this world, only people who would be watching Ukraine would be people with relatives in the area and OSINT/war fans, "public opinion" would have different concerns.
I dunno. I kind of like it when Russia doesn’t get what it wants. Not particularly strongly, but more than I care about miscellaneous civil wars. Imagine how the Westerners who actually lived through the Cold War might feel.
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Alternatively, "major historical enemy catastrophically fails to invade tiny neighbor" doesn't require a conspiracy to be a captivating news story.
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I don't think the tide of public opinion can turn for Russia, but there is a recess from the high tide a year ago. And for the war - I have long stated that it is competition who will lose faster. Could as well be Ukraine. Especially when Ukrainian men can just have to get to one of the borders to be free of subscription
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