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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 23, 2023

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No, they're not. The US has an interest in preserving the economic stability that would be threatened by a broader conflict in the Middle East which is independent of any interest in protecting Israel per se. Not to mention that, if the claims commonly repeated on here about the terrible effects of higher gas prices on the well-being of US citizens are true, preventing a wider conflict serves the interests of those citizens.

Not to mention that, if the claims commonly repeated on here about the terrible effects of higher gas prices on the well-being of US citizens are true, preventing a wider conflict serves the interests of those citizens.

Imagine still trying to shill the "US military Intervention in the Middle East is due to oil, it's not about Israel" talking point at this point.

Okay. I'm imagining it. Your point?

And in case my point is too subtle, it's this: this is a snide and consensus-building way to assert "Actually, it's all about Israel." You may make the argument that it's all about Israel. You may not simply assert that anyone who thinks it's not all about Israel is simply a "shill."

So, I had to think about whether to warn you or give you a ban for this. The comment in itself is only slightly bad. But you've been tip-toeing up to that line for as long as you've been here, and you've been repeatedly warned about being a one-note piano, and your response has been to try to make the Joo-posting a little more sneakier but still, it's really all you ever post about, and you're frequently antagonistic when you do.

You have a fan club, and some people will be pissed off if we ban you and complain that we're just protecting Da Joos.

The fact is, you've actually been getting extra slack just because of your particular niche viewpoint and us bending over backwards to be fair-minded. So one more time: you can deny the Holocaust, Notice(tm)-post, and talk about (((whatever else you want))), but you need to follow the same rules of charity and civility as everyone else, and the more you keep banging that one note, the more we are going to notice (and respond) when you choose to be obnoxious about it.

Banned for two weeks.

(ETA: Typoed 13 days, but fine, you get a free 1-day reduction.)

How about engaging substantively, rather using perjoratives like "shill"?

Unless you're writing all of this to imply the US would sell out Israel in a heartbeat, if it was in it's geopolitical interest, nothing you said seems to contradict my point?

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