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Israel-Gaza Megathread #1
This is a megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.
I don’t see why Israel would be ‘forced to the wall’ in terms of materiel. They can borrow or be given money easily, and the global arms market is open to them.
Unlike Ukraine, it’s also unlikely for structural reasons that this would be a very long war with an extremely high use rate for munitions over a very long period.
This is one of those - ok let's see what will happen. Frankly I want the region peaceful and stopped from sending people to Europe. The peace of prosperity is prefferable. The peace of the graveyard is acceptable.
And Israel has enough material base and a lot of smart people to produce them fast. Although the aid send to Ukraine would probably have been better used in Israeli hands.
I think it's a pretty low-quality over-the-top hysterical take. Nukes flying is pretty unlikely even if America does nothing at all. Israel made it through several other full-scale wars with multiple larger countries with proper militaries without any direct foreign intervention and without nuking anybody. It's pretty unlikely they get pushed to the point of feeling the need to do that no matter what happens here.
Granted a substantial American carrier force standing by probably makes it less likely for anyone to get too carried away even without them actually doing anything, which I guess is a good thing.
Israel nuking Iran wouldn't jive with any of their western partners. You can highlight all the Iranian aid and enabling for Hamas you want, but to launch nukes on Iran prior to any other kind of soft or hard escalation would lose all but the most zionist western politicos.
This has made me respect Benji much less than I had previously. He's clearly far from impartial here and is burning his credibility to advocate for his own interests.
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Notes -
Ben Shapiro says that it's very important that America provide material aid to Israel, otherwise nukes may start flying. https://twitter.com/restoreorderusa/status/1712954326652424658
I don’t see why Israel would be ‘forced to the wall’ in terms of materiel. They can borrow or be given money easily, and the global arms market is open to them.
Unlike Ukraine, it’s also unlikely for structural reasons that this would be a very long war with an extremely high use rate for munitions over a very long period.
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This is one of those - ok let's see what will happen. Frankly I want the region peaceful and stopped from sending people to Europe. The peace of prosperity is prefferable. The peace of the graveyard is acceptable.
And Israel has enough material base and a lot of smart people to produce them fast. Although the aid send to Ukraine would probably have been better used in Israeli hands.
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I think it's a pretty low-quality over-the-top hysterical take. Nukes flying is pretty unlikely even if America does nothing at all. Israel made it through several other full-scale wars with multiple larger countries with proper militaries without any direct foreign intervention and without nuking anybody. It's pretty unlikely they get pushed to the point of feeling the need to do that no matter what happens here.
Granted a substantial American carrier force standing by probably makes it less likely for anyone to get too carried away even without them actually doing anything, which I guess is a good thing.
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Nuclear exchange with whom, though? This is some "violent clashes" journospeak. Just say "if you don't help, we'll nuke Tehran".
Israel nuking Iran wouldn't jive with any of their western partners. You can highlight all the Iranian aid and enabling for Hamas you want, but to launch nukes on Iran prior to any other kind of soft or hard escalation would lose all but the most zionist western politicos.
This has made me respect Benji much less than I had previously. He's clearly far from impartial here and is burning his credibility to advocate for his own interests.
That was premised on escalation, on them having to fight Lebanon, Syria and Iran at the same time.
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