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naraburns  nihil supernum  1yr ago (text post)   29413 thread views

Israel-Gaza Megathread #1

This is a megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.

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ALl of your post is basically incoherent. Israel is in control of all of the terms of engagement going forward. They never have to put a single troop into Gaza and yet could shell almost all of its landmass without committing a single warcrime, as almost all of Gaza is a military target. They also can do the same to the North and the East, as those are also legitimate military targets. The Arabs' only weapon is pity. If the international community is not idiotic dupes, Israel will win easily and everyone will be neutral/happy. If they are dupes, then Israel will have to put on lots of stupid trials demonstrating that, yes, Hamas/Hezbolla was housing rockets in an elementary school.

Of course, the "international community" is stupid, at best. Realistically, it is antisemetic and full of Israel haters. So they will have a mild uphill battle until Biden goes mask off and embraces Iran fully (as he wants to, but probably cannot realistically do). If that is the case the game will be very hard for Israel, but also its true enemy (American leftists) will be exposed and perhaps deposed.

I didn't think it was that incoherent, a little rushed perhaps. This post of yours is not much better. If Israel could just shell Gaza then why are they massing 100,000 troops and equipment at the border?

Because they know that they will be spuriously accused of war crimes and that those accusations are much more important than deaths of soldiers in the long term. It is unfortunate, but it is the reality we are dealing with.

Do you think that launching an invasion with tens of thousands of troops (along with cutting off all electricity, food, and water) won't lead to accusations of war crimes?

It will, but it they should not be taken seriously.

So they will have a mild uphill battle until Biden goes mask off and embraces Iran fully (as he wants to, but probably cannot realistically do).

Biden's old school, he's probably actually for Israel.

(to give the Devil his due)

I have heard claims that Israel simply lacks enough artillery to level Gaza, ostensiy because they donated a large chunk of their stockpile at the behest of the US to Ukraine.

How true that is, I don't know, and I sprinkled some salty disclaimers on it just in case.

I wonder if in the Republican primary someone like DeSantis will respond to Haley (who made the claim softness on Ukraine created this situation) something along the lines of:

Your constant war mongering has led to the situation where one of our closest allies lacks the means to fully engage a true existential threat because you gave all of our weapons to a corrupt regime with zero oversight to the point a decent amount of those weapons ended up in Hamas and the southern border. Only an idiot fights a war on two borders. Only the heir to the kingdom of idiots fights a war on 13 fronts. But that is always your policy notwithstanding how it puts us and our closest allies into worse positions. We cannot continue to fund Ukraine and Israel especially as it weakens our defenses (which we really need to worry about — this could spill out of control if Iran gets involved or China attacks Taiwan). This is similar to the pandemic. We need targeted aid; not just “fund everything”

Only the heir to the kingdom of idiots fights a war on 13 fronts.

Great reference.

Are you thinking of this story, re the US moving artillery ammunition it had stored in Israel to Ukraine?

So if I’m reading that correctly it was us owned ammunition that was stored in Israel not a donation

That is what it sounds like.

I never saw a primary source, but thanks for digging that up, it's probably what they were referencing.

Now that I think about it, it might have been our own Kulak, now modestly popular on Twitter, with brain damaging catgirl avatar and all.

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