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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 18, 2023

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What kind of meals are you eating that you can fit 2,200 calories on one plate?

  • Double Quarter Pounder® with Cheese: 740 Cal.
  • World Famous Fries® (large): 480 Cal.
  • Creamy Ranch Sauce (2 pkt): 220 Cal.
  • Coca-Cola® (large): 290 Cal.
  • McFlurry® with M&M'S® Candies: 640 Cal.
  • Total: 2370 Cal.

That McFlurry is doing most of the work. As is the ranch. Fries, burger, and a soda barley reaches 1,500. That's not even enough to satiate a normal weight adult.

Fries, burger, and a soda barley reaches 1,500.

If you just get a normal Big Mac combo it's a lot closer to 1000. Something, something, shrinkflation, but military rations have roughly the same caloric content as such a meal for a reason.

(Aside: is the GP's comment actually a typical McDonalds order? I thought everyone just ordered the standard combos, which are half that amount of food; that's like 20 bucks worth of food.)

That's not even enough to satiate a normal weight adult.

If you can deal with the slight time disjunction between finishing your meal and feeling full, it is. Which is not something people really talk about all that much, but once you realize it's happening to you it's relatively easy to deal with... and on second thought, this inherent bug in human hardware (the lag time between "is full" and "feels full") with respect to weight control is probably what semaglutide fixes knowing nothing else about it.

Aside: is the GP's comment actually a typical McDonalds order? I thought everyone just ordered the standard combos, which are half that amount of food; that's like 20 bucks worth of food.

The main driver of McDonald’s profit is actually frappes. It’s unusual for someone to get a combo plus a McFlurry, but that’s because McDonald’s would offer to upgrade the combo to have a McFlurry instead of a coke. A standard combo isn’t that much above a typical meal’s worth of calories, but, well, people get fat. Sometimes cartoonishly. Burger, fries, and a shake isn’t that unusual of a meal for a fat person.

but that’s because McDonald’s would offer to upgrade the combo to have a McFlurry instead of a coke

Wait, their employees actually offer to do that? I've never had a McDonald's employee even offer to upgrade my combo to a large, let alone replace the drink with ice cream- I guess they just don't want my money that badly because I probably would more often if they both advertised that was possible and wasn't going to be adding another 30% of the price of the meal.

And to think I believe the height of cleverness is swapping out the fries for a cheeseburger or the Coke for a coffee; clearly, I've been ordering wrong all my life.

That's not even enough to satiate a normal weight adult.

That's the problem, though; it won't satiate you, but burger/fries/soda can make up a lot of the calories you are supposed to consume. My info may be outdated, but women should eat 2000 calories or less a day, and men should eat 2,500 or less a day (depending on age, activity level and so on).

So if you have 1,500 calories in one meal, for a woman that leaves you with 500 calories for the rest of the day and a man will have 1,000. If you're consuming sugary 'coffee' drinks, sodas, etc. you can hit those limits, and that's without eating anything solid. And you'll be hungry because your calories were liquid/one fast food meal, so you will eat more to feel full. Excess calories consumed = weight gain.