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Culture War Roundup for the week of February 27, 2023

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Hell, I can't even get some interlocutors to stop calling it a "genocide" on the Ukrainian people much less agree that the attack is less than total war. Nothing is ever the middle version of anything, it's always maximally terrible.

I hope the irony in this observation was intentional…

"genocide" on the Ukrainian people

Russia is kidnapping Ukranian children and Russifying them. According to the 1948 Genocide convention, ratified by both Ukraine and Russia, such actions rise to the level of genocide:

any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Russia is kidnapping Ukranian children and Russifying them.

There are barely any 'Ukrainian' children in the areas Russia has conquered so far.

These are mostly ethnic Russian areas.

How would we distinguish 'Russification' of Ukrainian children, from evacuation of Russian-speaking children from a warzone ?

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

We've got bigger problems than Russia then...

The difference being that you are doing these things to yourself, unlike Ukraine which is getting them forcibly imposed by another.

Partially yes.

Then there are other things that are hard to see as anything other than deliberate policy.

And on top of that you have more subtle things that are hard to prove are deliberate, but you have to keep in mind you're talking to a self-confessed conspiracy theorist.

Unless by "to yourself" you mean to say they're imposed by my own government. In which case: yes, but the people ruling me are hostile occupiers, as far as I'm concerned.

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