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Culture War Roundup for the week of January 2, 2023

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While clearly we disagree on some ideological points here, I also don't see why you feel that grievance is the only rhetorical mode for White nationalism.

I know I catch a lot of complaints here, and accusations of "no true scotsman-ing" here for pointing out that the woke-left and alt-right are effectively identical (in some cases literally the same people) but I really do think it is that simple.

Having drunk the woke kool-aid they either can't or wont recognize a rhetorical mode that isn't based in grievance. Or less charitably, despite all the talk of being "red pilled" they're still in the progressive Matrix and still think it's air they're breathing.

It's the old "the master's tools will never dismantle the master's house," alt-righters can't defeat progressives using their own tools.

But this progressive matrix exists within yet another matrix, the Enlightenment matrix, where in a similar way, late 20th century conservatives engage in a Sisyphean struggle to dismantle the works of theliberal left using the tools of liberalism. The only way conservatives can win is to reject the liberal frame entirely. Cthulhu swimming left isn't mysterious, it's simply carrying Enlightenment ideas towards their logical conclusions. These conclusions are too monstrous to reach in a single generation, but over many generations under the Enlightenment framework we will inevitably reach them, no matter how hard people stand athwart history shouting "Stop!"

Being above it all works fine when you actually ARE strong. The Great Dane can ignore the chihuahua's challenge. Doesn't work so well when you're not; if the barking results in the Great Dane's master whipping him for "making the chihuahua bark" and refusing to feed him until the chihuahua is satisfied (which he never will be), the Great Dane needs to do something more than quietly endure.

was this supposed to be a reply to @FiveHourMarathon?

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