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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 28, 2022

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Do you really think, though, that doing away with votes for women is going to make the pendulum swing back? The kind of rainbow hair dye septum-pierced college activist types are possibly not voting, but that doesn't stop them setting up all kinds of campaigns. Would AOC go back to the kitchen (or cocktail bar) if she couldn't be elected and couldn't even vote?

Yeah, women have to take responsibility for what happened, but so do men. The Sexual Revolution was something both sexes wanted; men wanted it for 'free love' where they wouldn't have to marry a chick just to fuck her, wouldn't have to run the risk of a kid they'd have to support (because yay contraception and later on abortion), and they'd be able to play the field, sow their wild oats, and not be held back or tied down by boring suburban domesticity with a wife and kids. Women wanted it because hey, women get horny too, they didn't want marriage and kids off the bat either, and they were being told they should aspire to have the same freedoms as men did in all aspects of their live.

Don't marry without trying out the goods first, how can you be sure you'll have a happy marriage if you find out you're not sexually compatible? Without living together, how will you know that you'll get on together? And only one sexual partner in your entire life? You'll regret this later on, you'll be resentful about missing out on all the great experiences you could have had. And men and women will understand each other better, be more friendly, once they are all frank and open about sex and there are no more taboos or restrictions.

At some stage in their lives, everyone is young and horny and wants fun without strings or complications, and they think everyone else is having all the fun, and they're reading magazines and newspaper articles and seeing movies and TV shows about all the great, fun, non-vanilla non-missionary sex everyone else is having, you could be having that too. Then they bump into reality (not everybody gets to have that) and they are resentful, because they were promised this! They were told that love and romance and sex were the greatest pleasures and the most important things in life, and they deserved it all!

How many 20 year old men really want to get married, settle down, and start a family at that age? How many women? I would wager not very many, because this is the modern world we live in now. Get an education first. Get a good job. Get that career. Make something of yourself before even thinking of permanent relationships. But also have a long-term relationship, because only losers can't get a partner. Contradictory messaging, and no recognition of the hard truth that some people will never have that, no matter how they want it, because they're too ugly or too weird or they are misfits in some way. They don't even have to be "crazy homeless on the streets" level, but some people are fat or short or plain or have odd interests or are socially inept because of personality disorders (very mild ones) and all the coaching in the world and advice about "dress better, eat healthy, lift!" is not going to get them what they want. Men and women both.

I don't think 20 year olds should be getting married, but neither do I think 12 year olds should even be thinking of boyfriends/girlfriends and dating. But we have to teach them all about it, because of course they'll be having sex, because that's our modern world and there's no such thing as "no, you're too young and I have the authority to stop you". Or at least, that's the argument from the great liberal campaign to give everyone freedoms and rights and happiness.

Don't marry without trying out the goods first, how can you be sure you'll have a happy marriage if you find out you're not sexually compatible? Without living together, how will you know that you'll get on together? And only one sexual partner in your entire life? You'll regret this later on, you'll be resentful about missing out on all the great experiences you could have had.

This makes intuitive sense but is straight up modern western bullshit and is not borne out by the facts. See this article here: https://marriagefoundation.org.uk/research/does-religion-help-couples-stay-together/

Now research shows that Muslim women are the most likely religious group to be in a long-term, happy relationship.

The report by Marriage Foundation, the think tank dedicated to promoting stable families, is the first ever in the UK to explore the links between religious associations and relationship stability using Millennium Cohort Study data collected from almost 15,000 mothers.

Muslim women were found to favour marriage more than any other religious group. Ninety-four per cent of Muslim women are married compared to only 79 per cent of Christian mothers and 59 per cent of non-religious mothers.

The report rules out the explanation that Muslim women stay with their husband because they are in some way repressed. It finds 31 per cent more Muslim mothers report high relationship happiness compared to non-Muslim mothers.

Sir Paul Coleridge, chair and founder of Marriage Foundation, commented: “These findings are truly startling. It appears at first counter intuitive that Muslim women have such successful relationships when many are in arranged marriages.

“In fact, Muslims in arranged marriages have many of the ingredients for a really successful long term marriage. They enter marriage without artificial and unreal ‘celebrity’ expectations or a belief that they merely have to bump into a perfect partner and from then on no effort will be needed.

“In time the ‘perfect partner’ inevitably disappoints. This group on the other hand have no unreal expectations and from the word go, really work hard and fashion their relationship out of the material they are given.

“Doubtless it is in part a consequence of this that they are over 30 per cent more fulfilled and happy than their western sisters.

Note that is is just comparing between UK women, so it's not like some of the women are in highly repressive societies with little legal recourse if their relationships go bad, everyone being compared here has the same level of legal protection available.

And yet the group that does best long term is one where sleeping around is one of the biggest taboos there is and people only ever cohabit after getting married. The reason behind this is that we have a totally different mindset to what marriage is supposed to be than westerners (e.g. for us it's expected and encouraged for you to change your partner to suit you better and vice versa, while westerners would consider that to be manipulation) and it turns out that our mindset is superior in the long run.

Do you really think, though, that doing away with votes for women is going to make the pendulum swing back?

Well, yes, it probably would. I think the folks who unironically want to revoke women's suffrage are entirely correct that it did, and continues to, radically alter society.

Whether this is a good thing or not is a matter of perspective. But we'd definitely be less liberal and very much less woke without the women's vote.

I didn’t claim that undoing women’s right to vote would undo all this. I merely pointed out that the anti-suffragettes were correct about what happened.

And, BTW, teach your kids not to have sex and stick to it actually works pretty well, it’s just no one is willing to do it- mainstream conservatives think it’s too hard, and mainstream liberals wrote it off without trying.