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Culture War Roundup for the week of March 10, 2025

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Which modern civilizations that exist today that also police their population's sexual activity exists today, according to you?

Islam is undoubtedly a civilization. Not as nice of one to live in as the west, but undoubtedly a civilization. So is India.

Fair, I questioned it wrong; which successful modern civilizations that also police their population's sexual activity exist today?

Fair, I questioned it wrong; which successful modern civilizations that also police their population's sexual activity exist today?

Mormons. Modern Orthodox Jews. Per some other discussions in this thread, possibly the less strict Mennonite sects. Ethnic Chinese Blue Tribers in the US. European traditional elite families still do it, although they don't (and never did) stop their sons banging lower-class chicks on holiday.

And of course the dirty little secret of the Blue Tribe PMC (see for example Charles Murray's Coming Apart) is that they police their own sexual activity much more than they are able to admit to.

What are you suggesting about Murray’s book, exactly?

Islam is still a good example of it unless you have trivial definitions of success that only apply to Faustians. Saudis and Emiratis live very modern lives in countries that still criminalize adultery.

But you can look at Eastern Asia too, the marital norms there are all still quite more stringent than Western mores, just in different ways. The West is an anomaly in how liberal it is with women, and quite literally always has been an anomaly in this way.