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Culture War Roundup for the week of January 20, 2025

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The very simple answer to this is that we grandfather all current citizens in. I think you're blowing this way out of proportion.

I think it would be better to pick a date to start at. If you said retroactive to 1924, it still wouldn’t affect most people as they could likely trace their family tree to someone born in the country prior to 1924.

I agree. But that is easy to do by legislation and hard to do by executive order.

Surely he would be following Biden's example (re: the ERA).

Biden was trolling re. the ERA. I think Trump is serious about ending birthright citizenship, in the sense that he wants what he is doing to have actual consequences up to and including deportation for the people he is taking citizenship away from.

Having thought about this, I think the most likely plan is not to enforce the executive order (there will be a temporary injunction in place against it within days), and then to do things properly by legislation in the unlikely event that SCOTUS find that the Constitution does not protect birthright citizenship. This moves faster because you can start the (slow) litigation process immediately, whereas doing it by legislation means that the litigation doesn't start until the legislation passes Congress. And the litigation is the important part of this.

Biden was trolling re. the ERA

I don't think it was Biden, but that aside, how do you know?

Because if the person running the Biden WH was serious, they could have issued an executive order ordering the National Archivist to promulgate the amendment as ratified.

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