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So a question I had originally asked was, slightly paraphrased, "To what extent does being pro-white ALSO require you to be anti-semetic?"
Your answer here seems to be "it doesn't, unless the Jews ever become a threat to the interests of whites."
Is that a fair restatement?
Do you believes that Jews, in aggregate, are a threat to the interests of whites?
I have suspicion Jews, in aggregate, are disproportionately threatening to everyone including themselves. They have a so called 'verbal tilt', they are far more likely to have a high verbal IQ than visual.
This gives them a superpower of being able to rationalise absolutely anything, and are thus a ready source and a readier vector of all kinds of hazardous ideologies, primarily left-wing ones because those are intrinsically more appealing on account of almost always being about overthrowing existing order and replacing it with your own that's clearly going to be faultless.
If you propose to do so out of pure self-interest, you won't get as many helpers as if you dress it up as trying to bring about heaven on earth, etc.
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I think that Jews are White, but that the organized political and economic wing of international Jewry does not see itself that way, and is acting against the interests of White people. This isn’t true only of Jews, though; they have (inexplicably) found eager allies and collaborators among a certain subset of gentile Whites, who are working hand-in-hand with them in the dispossession of Whites. Part of having White racial consciousness is, as far as I’m concerned, wanting to safeguard the welfare even of White people who don’t want the help. Rescuing wayward, confused Whites is non-negotiably important, in my opinion - saving Whites from themselves and opening their eyes to what has been done to them with their own ostensible (if compromised) consent. Basically I think that a great number of Jews fall into that category of “wayward Whites who can still be brought back into the fold before it’s too late”, although my confidence in that proposition continues to waver.
Good luck with this.
The best and brightest of Whites clearly see that "whiteness" is lost cause and are leaving the sinking ship ASAP to join the winning side.
https://www.thejc.com/news/world/joe-biden-s-very-jewish-family-1.508420
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/2014-09-28/ty-article/charlotte-clinton-mezvinsky-jew-or-not-jew/0000017f-dbff-df9c-a17f-ffff53ee0000
https://www.scmp.com/magazines/style/celebrity/article/3097352/meet-donald-trumps-grandchildren-arabella-joseph-and
Do you believe that, when searching for a husband, someone like Chelsea Clinton really went "hmm, whiteness is a losing cause; I better find a Jewish husband to ensure that my child is not white"? Especially considering that the recent events have, indeed, demonstrated that antisemitism continues to exist - such as in the way that one of the most major musical artists, if not the most major, of the recent decades is willing to go to major medias to express clearly antisemitic views?
And what, you think this is muh IQ and education?
«Sinking ship» may be too strong a phrase but Jewishness does carry social benefits that Whiteness does not, namely access to resources and authority of an ethnic corporation. Can you imagine the reverse of Kanye's case, with some guy calling on Whites to drop Kanye or Nick Cannon?
People do care about ethnic and caste-based in-groups, even if Hajnal whites are on average a bit defective in this respect – even they can adapt. It is historically normal for upper-class (but not necessarily high income) people to think dynastically and seek to marry off their children into a higher-potential, better-protected, well-networked ethnically distinct demographic at the top of the current social hierarchy; this needn't be explained by random, thoughtless romance-driven breeding mechanics characteristic of plebs. Ambitious Jews did that as well when entering Anglo and German higher society, the result being many newly made Baron families mixing with Lutherans and e.g. Rothschilds all but dissolving among the British aristocracy. Now Clintons and Trumps may prosper in a way Kennedys have not, and Pelosis have a stake in the future too.
In fact I contend that for some families this is can be understood as a reward, a result of proving one's dedication over multiple generations. Trump's father had been desperate to demonstrate his and now Ivanka, after converting to Judaism, has become just about worthy of being accepted into the family of a mediocre convicted felon. Pelosi boasts of her father having been a shabbos goy; now some of Pelosi's grandchildren will have a solid defense if anyone calls them Nazi, Racist or Fascist. The story of Clintons and Bidens is probably similar.
That's a breathtaking spin on a man with maximally high social capital getting deplatformed in real time. Everything else aside, do you honestly think Kanye's case reinforces your point? What could even have been evidence in favor of the opposite that you'd accept – antisemitism not existing, all antisemites having been rounded up and shot? Literally insane ultra-rich and confident men knowing better than to speak ill of Jews, or Kanye getting quartered in public?
Or are you also building your credentials with conspicuous gullibility, at Eetan's expense?
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This is something I’ve certainly thought about. What if instead of absorbing Jews into Whiteness, the only really viable long-term hope is to absorb Whites into Jewishness, through a calculated long-term campaign of intermarriage? It’s not something I currently advocate, nor do I have any hope of it getting off the ground as a widely-accepted cultural program, but it’s not clear to me right now whether or not it would be a bad thing.
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Well that actually clears things up even if I find the point of view to be almost unrelatable.
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