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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 9, 2024

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there is a distinct cohort of the extremely-online "right" that is predominantly queer, atheist, and obsessed with identity-politics and oppression dynamics.

"Woke Right" seems like as good a descriptor as any and better than most.

And yet, when I see Lindsay using "woke right" (or, in his most recent Triggernometry appearance "woke fascist," which he argued was a more accurate term), it's for people like Auron MacIntyre, who are anything but 'queer and atheist.'

Edit: and I think both MacIntyre and Parvini have done a great job on their respective Youtube channels taking apart this entire "woke right" framing.

I don't think that one man's sloppy definitions/thinking invalidates "woke right" as a concept.

Fact remains that there exists a coherent group of the online right that is more "woke" than it is "right" . As @Ben___Garrison observes downthread, the whole "the 'woke right' classification is too vague/doesn't exist" is the exact same bullshit the woke left keeps trying to pull.

Fact remains that there exists a coherent group of the online right that is more "woke" than it is "right"

Yes, but that's not who I see the "woke right"/"woke fascist" label being aimed at. Plus, as Parvini particularly pointed out in going over the Lindsay Triggernometry video, much of what Lindsay describes as "woke" is simply doing politics, and further, that several of the positions he criticizes the "woke right" for holding are ones that are supported by his own past writings (particularly the way modern academia crushes dissent).

Yes, but that's not who I see the "woke right"/"woke fascist" label being aimed at.

Fair, but again, I don't see how one man's sloppy definitions/thinking should invalidate the concept of a "woke right" because it very clearly exists regardless of whether it likes being labeled as such.

Plus, as Parvini particularly pointed out in going over the Lindsay Triggernometry video,

Man, Friday Night Tights got a lot more based than when I last watched them...

Sorry about that; trying to get Youtube links out of my browser history (Safari) can be a pain at times, with the way the queue ends up working. Hopefully fixed this time. Thanks for pointing it out.