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Going nowhere without a chaperone was the traditional solution.
Yeah, this. It's how Muslims solve the problem. It's how Christians solved the problem until very recently.
I was watching ¿Qué Pasa, USA?, a bilingual sitcom from the 70s, and one of the big conflicts between the Cuban immigrants and their American daughter is the need to have a chaperone on her dates, as in episode 7, "The Super Chaperone". That's because America had already gone through the sexual revolution, but Cuba hadn't.
There is only one thing a woman wants to be alone with her date for. Chaperones are how we kept girls from becoming sluts.
I don't know as much about latin America, but in Spain the chaperone thing is often solved for with a double date, where one of the couples are older and generally married, and the other couple are youths. The older couple are often family, but usually not the parents. You want them to be a couple that the younger people will respect to some degree. An older married cousin and their spouse in their 20s is usually pretty good, or the older child of a god-parent and their spouse etc. An aunt/uncle who is quite a bit younger than the parent is good too, and more common in a Catholic country. I'm not sure how much this is still done now; my mother is Spanish and used to talk about doing this in the 60s/70s.
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BDSM is a fetish and participation in it motivated presumably by lust. DV, while superficially similar in that both involve violence (simulated vs. real) seems to come from a completely different place than BDSM. Anger, low impulse control, and both intensified by alcoholism in most cases. Presumably no one wants to be the target of DV, but it would not surprise me if the BDSM community contained more subs than doms.
Edit: I've caused quite a ruckus with misplacing my comment it seems. That's what you get for posting on mobile. But I'm still on my phone and at work so I will move this later when I find the time
I just had this comment in the "The Motte needs your help" report queue. Obviously it's in the wrong spot, but also I can't flag it as "this needs a moderator to move it maybe" because the report queue doesn't show context, and on its own this is a perfectly normal comment. Bit of a weakness, idk.
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I think maybe you meant to reply to a different comment?
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