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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 11, 2024

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The RFK supporters I know believe that kids are getting tens of vaccines in a single day.

The RFK-associated site I saw claimed 7 shots in one day, which appears to be true. (RSV, Hep B, Rotavirus, DTaP, Hib, Pneumococcal, Polio).

That's much closer to the truth but not necessarily true.

  • RSV is required depending on the mother's antibody status.
  • Hep B can be done in the second month of life.
  • So can the RSV vaccine.

So taking those two at 2 months instead of 3 months cuts the number to 5.

And polio is a going concern only in a couple of third world eastern hemisphere countries, so you can safely skip that one.

Polio doesn't work like that.

IPV which we use in the US (and basically anywhere where with the infrastructure to manage the necessary cold-chain) has no effect on infection or transmission of polio. It is highly effective at preventing severe disease (although polio normally presents as just a cold with no distinguishing symptoms, so we've never actually studied the vaccine's impact on mild disease), which is what we mean when we say the US has "eradicated polio". In practice, polio spreads largely through poor sanitation, not direct person-to-person contact, so improved sanitation has probably actually reduced spread a fair bit, but there's no reason to believe the vaccine has done so. And we don't know because no one tests for polio (although there's some small push to start doing some wastewater testing).

Genuinely didn't know that, thought polio being eradicated in the western hemisphere+even slightly non-shithole parts of the eastern hemisphere was due to vaccines, like smallpox. Thanks for the context.

In practice I suspect countries which don't have to worry about cholera can skip polio shots, but I now understand why it's still on the vaccine schedule.

What's old is new again

Ah, yes, third world migrants are the gift that keeps on giving.

7 shots in one appointment, however, is a plausible claim, even if it isn't necessary to do it that way.

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