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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 11, 2024

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The oxford study results paint a grim picture for East Asians where it states that women of east asia are more likely to prefer dating people of other races with whites being highest rated, I would argue that the subcontinent and south-east Asia has the similar issues

The silver lining, for South Asian men, is that white men generally aren't nearly as attracted to South Asian women as to East Asian women.

It's not true, I'm South Asian. It's extremely common for South Asian women to begrudgingly marry a guy of the same ethnicity whilst being in a fairly serious relationship with a white guy.

Colorism is insane here, I'd be significantly less attractive had I had darker skin and more typical south Asian features. No one discusses this even privately unless drunk.

It's not true, I'm South Asian. It's extremely common for South Asian women to begrudgingly marry a guy of the same ethnicity whilst being in a fairly serious relationship with a white guy.

Just because it’s extremely common for SEA doesn’t mean it’s not extremely extremely common for EA.

You and SerialState may both be right.

It's extremely common for all parts of that region, from Afghanistan till Korea, maybe neighboring areas too.

Many South Asians settled in the west have to look back to the motherland as they can't find girls to marry. I would wanna hear actual anecdotes of this stuff from people here, mine are pretty balckpilled if you're in this belt.

I dunno if it would be correct lol

Mail-order-brides are just the default for old country types in the USA. It’s not because American women find East Indians unattractive(although in practice they probably do).