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naraburns  nihil supernum  3d ago (text post)   25559 thread views

U.S. Election (Day?) 2024 Megathread

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Nobody is saying that the similarity of colors to each other is socially constructed (or at least I've never heard this claim).

Ok, well I'm pretty sure that if ask people to pair up objects of the same color, they'll also do that regardless of their language or culture.

If you're going to say that no one claimed that the sameness of colors is not socially constructed, then I don't know what content is the sentence "color is socially constructed" even carrying.

Ok, well I'm pretty sure that if ask people to pair up objects of the same color, they'll also do that regardless of their language or culture.

Except for the Chinese combining 青 with 青, or the Russians separating синий from голубой....

You're talking about language, I'm talking "sort these according to how hard they are to separate with your eyes".

what content is the sentence "color is socially constructed" even carrying.

That the assortment of bands of the electromagnetic spectrum into color words is socially constructed.

Maybe I'm pedantic, but I'd call that "language is a social construct".

If you read Foucault and his descendants, all "scientific knowledge" is socially constructed. Think of Power as an OSI layer between "reality" and "our understanding of reality", with the actual existence of immutable reality left deliberately ambiguous.

It's not that some things are "socially constructed" and others are "real", even if it's used that way tactically ("Science Is Real! No, your science is a socially constructed artifact of the cisheteropatriarchy"). It's that all our methods of understanding go through a filter of social power/biopower/whatever.

It's a very clever definitional superweapon.

Okay, I guess I should have known that there are people making that claim. However, I'm not trying to steelman it because I think it's dumb.

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