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naraburns  nihil supernum  16d ago (text post)   26869 thread views

U.S. Election (Day?) 2024 Megathread

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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/11/06/the_morning_after_lessons_to_learn_not_to_learn__151907.html

Can anyone translate this passage in english please:

So our base, and I include myself in sharing this blame, feared speaking out loud what we felt about the hundreds of thousands of migrants who crossed our borders in the last four years. I have Latino friends, waiting for their green cards, who admitted with some hesitancy that they were voting for Trump. They did so not despite his immigration views, but because of them. Knowing he would be called a racist for doing so, Trump said that it’s time to enforce the law and stop illegal migrants from “jumping the line,” as one of my Latino friends said to me approvingly – approving of Trump, not the migrants.

did he just admitted to/accused latino voter fraud?

They've now changed the text to "I have Latino friends, waiting for their green cards, who admitted with some hesitancy that they would have voted for Trump."

It seems more likely that he's lying about his Latino friends--whether regarding their status, or perhaps their very existence. My best steelman is that his Latino friends are actually legal and naturalized immigrants, who used to be green card holders. In my own experience, legal immigrants are often quite disdainful of illegals "jumping the line," so that would fit. And it's not an implausible misunderstanding. Alternatively, it's not unheard of for green card holders to accidentally get registered to vote, e.g. automatically as part of being issued a driver's license. Many of them don't even realize the problem; after all, if the lady at the MVD says you can vote, presumably she knows what she's talking about! (Spoiler: the lady at the MVD did not, in fact, know what she was talking about.)

But realistically? He's just lying and isn't smart enough to understand why that's transparent.

In my own experience, legal immigrants are often quite disdainful of illegals "jumping the line,"

In mine as well, in fact i would say that to call it "disdain" is to undersell it.

Probably meant "hoping Trump wins".

Well, I guess it would explain their hesitancy for admitting they were voting period, for Trump or otherwise. I would find it hilarious if the election were somehow overturned based on illegal Latino voting in Texas and Arizona.

It would be the funniest timeline.

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