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naraburns  nihil supernum  1mo ago (text post)   27187 thread views

U.S. Election (Day?) 2024 Megathread

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The election has caused me to update against the election theft theories more or less completely. It requires an extremely specific and absurdly narrow theory of the case for TPTB to have the ability and will to steal 2020 but not 2024 (or 2016), particularly when 2024 is clearly more important. No one really did anything to change the voting environment, no one was jailed or prosecuted for voter fraud, so they just decided not to do it this year? Unserious theory at this point.

While such a theory exists, I've never seen anyone propose it, so even if they started to I'd call it Texas Sharpshooter energy and move on.

Trump winning is proof that democracy works.

There were irregularities, but Republicans were more alert and suspicious in 2024 in a more productive way than 2020. Republican lawyers were working around the clock to make sure polls stayed open in Red areas and poll watchers witnessed everything in blue areas. Even if they don't catch explicit fraud, their actions prevent it from happening.

What is TPTB?

The powers that be, or the producers of The Bachelor. Depending on context.

The Powers That Be, an old term for entrenched systems of power and the agents imbedded in them.

the case for TPTB to have the ability and will to steal 2020 but not 2024 (or 2016)

My theory on 2016 has long been that Hillary's hubris led her to tell Bill and the party bigwigs that she'd win by 50 points even without cheating, and they said "LOL, okay then, you go, girl!"

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