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naraburns  nihil supernum  16d ago (text post)   26869 thread views

U.S. Election (Day?) 2024 Megathread

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So Trump has beaten three women so far - Hilary, Kamala, and Ivana.

Anyway - I am high on other peoples meltdowns and having lots of fun, but try not to be obnoxious to the IRL people I know. Twitter is fun. Probably even better than 2016.

What is the situation in your bubble? Also what are the best memes and zingers you have encountered?

So Trump has beaten three women so far - Hilary, Kamala, and Ivana.

I believe the Babylon Bee is one-upping your misogyny joke here: Gender Gap: Woman Only Gets 78% Of The Vote Man Gets

Damn. Need to up my misogyny. Even though they are pros I can't let it slide.

So Trump has beaten three women so far - Hilary, Kamala, and Ivana.

That's two more women than Kamala Harris' husband Douglas Emhoff has beaten!

(Well, that we know of.)

My bubble is eerily quiet.

I think my favorite zinger so far is, "Florida just counted all of their votes again for fun."

(Relatedly, but with less zing: "Florida counted all its votes in about an hour. Fraud is a choice.")

My tumblr timeline has looks like this, and that's overlooking a number of sub-1k reblogs (why hello, kawaii-guillotine, it's almost been a month since we last met); people in one (moderately trans) FFXIV Discord are considering Signal and in one case moving out of Texas (... to Canada, and no one wants to point out how rough that'd be), both real-life lefties and the Quilt Discord are wargaming out how to fight the inevitable Trump 3rd Election in 2028. I haven't look at PopeHat-sphere BlueSky world, and I'm not sure I want to.

Some of that's laughable, but there are a number of pretty deep policy disagreements, often ones that have a pretty wide potential impact for people. I'd hope that the GOP anti-abortion and anti-trans swings aren't so aggressive as to hit these people where it hurts, but I'm not optimistic, since even if MacIntyre-style revenge didn't take a foothold, most Republicans just don't know the material well enough to give caution. Meanwhile, the organizations that do have burned any trust that they might once have had.

((Maybe Elon Musk manages to turn the 4chan-style prescriptive heterosexuality into a part of the post-Christian Right... but I wouldn't be money on it.))

Likewise, there's a lot of (I hope) joking about the filibuster and court packing. Most of it's from people who are joking, but it's neither a great look nor a good policy.

That said, while I don't like people rubbing it in for most of the just-weirdos or just-left-normies (or even, despite my disagreements with him, Trace), some of the more assholish parts of the Fuck You Righties movement have earned what they've gotten. Vibes, papers, essays have definitely made a comeback as comebacks; the disappearance of The Young Turks its own statement, as has the complete failure of the political advertising system. The Bulwark is pretty likely to eat itself, or be consumed.

Haven't seen many great zingers, yet. For the most part, just repeating days or hours ago, or showing THIS IS WHAT MSNBC REALLY BELIEVES is as or more effective.

I'm being surprised by people I didn't expect to bring up the election results actually bringing up the election results.

Not sure if this is a good thing or not...

Multiple friends are having full-on breakdowns. It's distressing to see. Other friends are being insufferable and gloating (or, possibly worse, "not gloating but just saying"). At work, though, everyone is civil either way.

All of my best friends are happy and excited. Meanwhile, anybody I know who I suspect doesn't like Trump has gone quiet. In 2016 there were loud meltdowns and public outbursts; I don't see nearly as much this time. Exemplified by, say, Cenk Uyghur's infamous 2016 tirade, column a, Cenk Uyghur walking off stream in 2024, column b.

I can't fully remember the 2016 one, but Cenk had a solid 4 minute rant ripping democrats once the NYT needle got to about 85-90% last night, maybe 10-20 minutes before he went on the PBD show to take some lumps from a hostile crowd. But definitely different vibe from 2016 -- less utter shock or tear-shedding from over-investment in a candidate.

I enjoyed that rant. It was very horseshoe. Douglas Mcgregor is right wing, and he also says that we are ruled by the donor class.

That was such a great rant!

Meanwhile, anybody I know who I suspect doesn't like Trump has gone quiet.

I'm seeing the same, a lot of radio silence.

I think a major factor is that this time is significantly less of a shock, so the delta in emotion was smaller. The folks I know in blue bubbles were genuinely blindsided by 2016 but were not blindsided this time around.

The sun just came up on the West Coast. I haven't talked to anybody about the election except my wife so far.

I'm in a deep blue bubble. Many of my friends are self-loathing whites. (Good people otherwise).

Before the election, they made constant jokes about how we're about to enter a fascist dictatorship or whatever. But there's clearly no actual fear or worry about it. It's just empty parroting of the media line.

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