Grant_us_eyes
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Grant_us_eyes
12hr ago
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
You(and others) are making comparisons that Data Centers are just as important(if not more, from what I've seen people say) than Nuclear Power. And when I go digging around, that's the answers I typically find.
Brother, you accuse me of building a strawmen when all I'm doing is rooting around in your hayfield, looking for a point. Hell, you haven't even offered up a rebuttal. If you've got something in your pocket, I'm all ears.
Grant_us_eyes
12hr ago
Time to bring back the Frutiger Aero style of thinking, I see.
Grant_us_eyes
15hr ago
And there are those of us who think such a comparison is doing alot of heavy work not in evidence. To copy my reply on the topic above;
Nuclear you can point to solid returns that would benefit the common consumer directly - less reliance on hydrocarbons, energy independence, cheaper energy.
Data Centers you point to with the returns that basically boil down to 'Big Businesses need it, LLMs are magic bro, trust me, we've got to beat China!'
So color me a skeptic. On Data Centers, not Nuclear. For fuck sake people, just use the magic rock and be done with it.
Grant_us_eyes
15hr ago
Nuclear you can point to solid returns that would benefit the common consumer directly - less reliance on hydrocarbons, energy independence, cheaper energy.
Data Centers you point to with the returns that basically boil down to 'Big Businesses need it, LLMs are magic bro, trust me, we've got to beat China!'
So color me a skeptic. On Data Centers, not Nuclear. For fuck sake people, just use the magic rock and be done with it.
Grant_us_eyes
18hr ago
If LLMs are anything like computing and internet and the youtubes, then people aren't going to have to do anything and the market will eventually sort itself out. Supply will come to match demand. It doesn't need your help or advocation. Well, discounting a bubble or two.
But we're not in a bubble, right?
And you'll get similar results, as well.
One of the claims I've seen for the benefit of data centers is, well, jobs. As someone who has friends looking to get into Data Center construction, given from what I've seen, the timeline for construction seems to be around 2 to 3 years for each new data center.
In the local area, for those 2 to 3 years, the numbers will probably be rather rosey - you'll get a glut of new people spending a fair amount of cash from things from groceries to restraunts to RV parks to hotels - business is booming! Numbers go up!
Until they leave.
Whoops. So now businesses that were operating under the assumption of a cash flow that no longer exists - and as someone who's watched more businesses fuckup due to accounting budgeting and making really stupid decisions than I care to admit to, oh boy is this the likely outcome - if they can't react to the economic shock, more than likely they'll go under.
So now you've got a data center likely set in the most moronic of location and a bunch of businesses now no longer able to make ends meat because the circumstance under which they were flourishing no longer exist.
And you've still got the fucking data center.
Do I have numbers to back this up? Studies? No. All I'm going off of is a little bit more economic knowledge than the average person and watching businesses do really stupid things during covid. (Businesses got flush with cash during Covid due to government grants to stay open. So they planned around that sudden cash flow. Guess what happened when it dried up?)
Putting all that aside, even people who are pro-data center have no issue pointing out that the entire PR look is bad. And, in my personal pet peeve, I'd seen more than a few people try to compare anti-data center people to anti-nuclear power, nevermind how moronic such an arguement is.
One of these days, I'd love to see a social study to find out what causes people's brains to flip and do the meme.
Grant_us_eyes
3d ago
Lately I've become rather obsessed with Ranch Water and Old Fashioned.
Grant_us_eyes
4d ago
I had to take a moment to remind myself that Transhuman Space was actually GURPs, as I read that quite a bit but never actually played it.
Unlike Eclipse Phase, which I read the piss out of and actually got to play a time or two.
Grant_us_eyes
4d ago
Oh for fucks sake. Goddamit. This fucking timeline.
Time for whiskey.
Grant_us_eyes
7d ago
Any commentary on this matter would edge far too close to fedposting for my liking, so I'll politely decline to go down that particular rabbit hole. I give my FBI handler fits enough as-is.
I will remark that I've developed a dislike with people utilizing the term 'AI' to act as plaster over the cracks in a particular wall, or as a magic term that just solves everything.
Grant_us_eyes
7d ago
They're already coming out with dedicated 556 anti-drone rounds.
To indulge in some intellectual masturbation, I'm just going to quote an essay I slapped together one day on the evolution of warfare;
It is foolish to say that the next war will be one of drones. Mastery of such technology will likely devolve and adapt into new and unexpected avenues, and such a prelude in the form of Ukraine has already forced evolution in the military arena. Where this end-point will be is anyone's guess, and may very well be useless postulation. It is entirely possible that the drone warfare we see in Ukraine is but a momentary evolutionary fluke, produced by the specific set of circumstances that makes said conflict possible. That, in the more classical battlefield, such things would be reduced to mere toys in the face of an unrestricted fight for survival.
But hey, I'm just a dabbler when it comes to such things, at best. What do I know?
Grant_us_eyes
10d ago
I mean, seems to me they're being pretty forward with all the stuff they're doing.
Fun aside; one of the technical issues they ran into is discovering that the brain actively twists and moves around in the skull, resulting in some of the contact threads they were using to get dislodged. Solution; go deeper so they don't get ripped out. Fun stuff.
Grant_us_eyes
11d ago
Banks is very much hit or miss in terms of tone and story. The only book he's done that I really enjoy and will re-read from time to time is Excession, and that's predominately because the focus is almost 80% on the Minds.
Maybe I'm just being sensitive or cranky, but I can't help but think that Banks falls into the same trap that a few number of sci-fi authors do by making all their human characters be insufferable assholes.
Grant_us_eyes
13d ago
didn't have internet access
still has access to the internal network
Bruh.
There was a twitter post a while back that basically went; 'Oh, you think you're so smart and know more than the experts?!' 'No, I think I'm a fucking idiot and know more than the experts. That's the problem.'
People should just hire me as an AI safety expert, because even I know that 'access to an internal network' is basically just another way to spell 'access to a bug-ridden security nightmare'.
Grant_us_eyes
14d ago
I never did understand why people engaged in the American stereotypical nerd culture
They were acceptable minority targets that were easy to abuse and everyone excused said abuse.
That's what it really boils down to.
I feel people have abit of a deformed perspective nowadays when it comes to the Science Fiction and Fantasy genres, what with Marvel movies being such multi-billion dollar cash-cows that they are nowdays, nevermind other things, but at one point all this stiff really was a niche market being enjoyed by niche people. People playing D&D weren't making a good paycheck doing podcast/webstreaming, they were guys in thier basement or thier parent's basement playing make-beleive with rules and havine fun and not really bothering anyone.
I was very much a quiet, 'go away and leave me alone' kind of kid who stuck my nose in a book 90% of the time, and I still got harassed by people and my novels thrown out a window.
The times haven't really changed any, just the targets. I'm sure I could scrounge around for another set of acceptable minority targets people love to shit on as a demonstration.
Grant_us_eyes
14d ago
The latest GiTS anime they're putting out caught alot of people's attention due to being an almost faithful one-for-one translation of the origional manga, complete with art-style.
Cue, that scene, where the Major is involved in some good, old-fashioned, immersive lesbian threesome cybersex only to get interrupted by a work call from Batou.
And people(cough cough tourists cough) are freaking out at such salacious fanservice only to have actual fans come in and say 'You dumbass, this is literally in the manga, fucking READ'.
On a less ribald note, people are also a little put-off by Kusanagi being a bit of a goof in said anime, where near every adaption previous had her be a super-serious super-badass super-cop.
Again, no, guys, she's always been this way. She can be your goofy angel, or your killing devil, depending on what mood she's in.
Grant_us_eyes
16d ago
That thread is not exactly good for one's blood pressure. The majority of logic used in excusing it just further cements my personal opinion that people as a whole will gleefully be discriminatory as long as they have the power of the state behind thier actions to excuse it without any self awareness.
And, no, personally, I don't view it as fair. No special exemptions. Either people get the option to discriminate for anything, or no one does.
Grant_us_eyes
16d ago
Grant_us_eyes
16d ago
I once attended a pre-wedding party carrying a knife/multitool.
The company managing it was so bad that I was the only one with a bottle opener on said multi-tool.
I got alot of good attention because of it.
Grant_us_eyes
19d ago
There was a kerfuffle on twitter a while back about a Utah dating show and one of the female participants - people immeadiately lept on her appearance(she looked fine), her voice, the choice of men she had available to her(not realizing that the show itself was setup for a blind audition - neither side saw the other). But she had a list of requirements/preferences/specifications about what she was looking in regards to a parter, which includes such things as ski trips, foreign travel, scuba diving across the world, getting her home setup for themed group parties and the like -
And while you had a number of people gushing about how she had such a spate of cool hobbies and whatnot, not one person seemed to follow my train of thought and go 'Wait a minute, she looks to be in her mid-twenties and most of that are obscenely expensive hobbies with a horrendous amount of time investment! Where the holy hell is she getting both the money and the time to do all this at her age!?'
So... There's atleast one?
(Side note: Skiing doesn't count as expensive for Utah. They have alot of ski resorts.)
Grant_us_eyes
20d ago
And in reply to your second question, yes, it's an online supplier.
Grant_us_eyes
20d ago
Interesting. I can only go by my personal experience in that said peptide has been surprisingly beneficial - I did come into it with skepticism in mind, nor have I noted any detrimental side effects.
Grant_us_eyes
20d ago
I only do walking 3 days out of the week - the other 2 are when I'm training. I and my brother walk together, hence why he racks up more miles.
Grant_us_eyes
21d ago
I wouldn't know, personally; my experience involved healing an old knee injury(not debilitating, just worrying) and alleviating back/muscle pain for several hours after a series of very questionable decisions and learning that I've been training completely wrong for a very long time and I need to fix all my stuff.
As long as you know how to reconstitute peptides and know a good source, it's so cheap you might as well roll the bones and see what happens.
And my reply to that is that if you gave a metal lathe to a skilled user, you'd likely get something beautiful, but if you gave it to a random guy off the street, there's a real chance they'd loose a limb and bleed out before anyone could get to them.
As I read this thread, I'm noticing a similar and similar implied arguement crop up - the 1% that can use LLMs beautifully naturally assume the moment the general masses they will be freed like a butterfly bursting from it's crysalis into something beautiful and everything will be wonderful.
Yet we all know what occured the last time something like that happened.
I'm not trying to argue that we shut down LLM development. What I'm trying to say is that a good chunk of LLM development and movement and usage isn't from honest improvement but from sales department buzzwords and artificial push.
Nor does it really help your side when people argue otherwise you immeadiately and covertly imply that they're just luddites(in your case - like, c'mon, really?) or building strawmen(elsewhere). Yet you forget that you're the one making the outlandish claims, with very little evidence beyond single datapoints - IE, what you can do with it.
A single datapoint is data, yes. But it does not equate to an overall data trend. I've no doubt that you and people like this guy can do alot with LLMs, but I've yet to see any broader overall concrete benefit to the world at large nor any market uptick that would imply this is making things better.
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