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Small-Scale Question Sunday for October 27, 2024

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Atleast a few studies on soybean oil implies that is has alot of effects, none of them good.

I personally try to keep them out of my diet. Your mileage may vary.

This is the best source I've found- https://dynomight.net/seed-oil/

In practice, avoiding seed oils is probably really good for you, because it forces you to eliminate most of the processed crap you shouldn’t be eating anyway.

seed oil theorists push a much stronger theory: that seed oils are the cause of Western disease. I’ll just be honest. I think this view is completely indefensible.

My real worry about seed oil theory is that it’s a distraction. If you want to be healthier, we know ways you can change your diet that will help: Increase your overall diet “quality”. Eat lots of fruits and vegetables. Avoid processed food. Especially avoid processed meats. Eat food with low caloric density. Avoid added sugar. Avoid alcohol. Avoid processed food.

I know this is hard. You could even argue it’s unrealistic. That wouldn’t make it wrong.

I've reached a similar conclusion.

The sort of foods that cause high consumption of seed-oils, are the type of foods that you should avoid anyways; Seed oils or not. I personally love extra-virgin olive oil, because if can use a little and get a ton of flavor out of it. Kirkland brand EEVO is cheap enough.

So yeah. Olive oil for everything. Unless it is high-temp wok cooking, when Canola is permissible.

I try to limit my intake of olive oil simply due to how calorie dense it is, though I've been going back and forth over finding a good pre-made vinaigrette to go on my salad and just throwing my hands up and making my own from scratch.

You'd be surprised how many of said pre-made vinaigrettes use soybean oil, hence my annoyance.

When it comes to cooking, I typically prefer lard or butter.

Unless it is high-temp wok cooking, when Canola is permissible.

If you aren't sold either way on the theory that hexane-extracted oils are inherently unhealthy, but want to suspend judgement and act in an abundance of caution in this epistemic hellscape, there's always cold-pressed peanut or avocado oil, which have higher smokepoints anyway.

Yeah I feel like there’s enough evidence to warrant avoiding seed oils from a precautionary principle standpoint.

Since there are no real benefits to seed oils except for their low cost it’s an easy choice to avoid them whenever possible.

I don’t use them in home cooking because saturated fat tastes better. But where is the evidence that polyunsaturated fats are worse for you? Like there’s all sorts of claims about soy, and some of them are likely true, but it seems like disentangling polyunsaturated fats from phytoestrogens is beyond the ken of current knowledge. Where’s the evidence against canola oil(and no, it having once had an unfortunate name is not evidence) and cottonseed oil and the like?

I don't have the studies at my fingertips. I'm confident I could dig some up quickly because there is a large and active anti-PUFA community. But it's definitely not in my wheelhouse so I'd leave that to others who are more qualified.

Nevertheless, I see no benefit to eating foods which were created essentially de novo in the last 50 years and whose use has correlated highly with the rise in obesity. The processes for making safflower oil, for example, are completely foreign to anything granny would have done, and typically involve the use of industrial solvents (Hexane) and machinery.

Flip your question. Where are the studies proving that seed oils are healthy? Got a source for that?

When I have a choice, I'll try to avoid seed oils until they can be proved healthy. There is no downside if I'm wrong. People who eat lots of seed oils can't say the same.

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