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Friday Fun Thread for October 11, 2024

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The Alpha Gal is basically permanent, although there is this kind of woo-woo acupuncture treatment which supposedly works. If it were just me, I'd be stubborn and refuse to try some bullshit I think is fake. But kids change you, and you're willing to do anything to help them, so we may end up trying it. Who knows.

There is a massive rabbit hole you can go down with "chronic Lyme disease". Don't do it. I know it's hard because you want to do everything you can for your daughter, but seriously, resist. Nothing but scammers who want to bleed you dry of all your money.

Also dude you're going off about UAPs downthread but talking shit about alternative health rabbit holes up here? Come on.

Yeah I figured someone would bring that up.

I think I've been pretty open and consistent on my stance on UAPs whenever someone asks. I want them to be real, but I ultimately don't think the probability of them being real is very high. It's not something I would bet money on. Thankfully it costs me nothing to refresh /r/UFOs every once in a while to check the latest news.

If someone told me that they were about to drop $1k on New Paradigm Institute's online UFO classes (which is something that you can really do with real money!) because they thought that it would give them the inside scoop, I would tell them that that's obviously a scam and they should not do that.

If someone wants to just try some acupuncture or homeopathy method at home I don't actually have a problem with that. I'm not the thought police. But alternative medicine is filled with scammers who prey on emotionally vulnerable people for financial gain, so anyone charging money for alternative treatments deserves extremely strict scrutiny.

I agree with extremely strict scrutiny, I guess I would just say don't discourage people entirely. There are genuinely good practitioners lurking out there.

It's not just alternative health though. I'd say 95% of legitimate therapists are total shit and may even make things worse for their patients.

It's a similar ratio for alternative health.

If someone wants to just try some acupuncture or homeopathy method at home

Acupuncture is a little different from homeopathy in that there's a plausible mechanism in terms of stimulating nerves or whatnot -- the Asian Woo (Wu?) wrapped around it seems shitty and I haven't tried it myself, but certainly people I know have said it helps with various things. People who are into homeopathy on the other hand just seem to be sick all the time -- for which they need more homeopathy!

Disagree it's all scammers. Many chronic diseases are much more complicated than we take at face value. I have personally overcome chronic issues I've been told repeatedly by dozens of doctors were permanent.

It's difficult but can be done.

People might be interested in a longpost about overcoming those chronic issues?

Hmm I have made many a long post on here. Wish I had a quick reference to share.

Seems plausible that it's all scammers for some chronic diseases but not others.

The way I see the mechanism is basically stored emotional trauma "causes" almost all chronic disease/illness so. I disagree.

That’s not a “mechanism”. What would be the actual mechanism behind this proposed effect?

Idk what you mean by mechanism but there are all sorts of ones proposed.

Read "The Body Keeps the Score"

So what solution do you propose, then? Just therapy of some sort? Honestly asking in a non-snark manner, as I know two people with chronic illness who also (I thought coincidentally) have significant amounts of stored emotional trauma.

They need reconsolidation of procedural memory. It can be done. Unfortunately most doctors and "therapists" don't know this.

With stored emotional trauma there's always something "left unfinished". Pain and anxiety that's literally stuck and stored in the bodymind. Often this is from insecure attachment in childhood and adolescence. And/or from bullying, violence, etc. Not rarely there's a combination of both insecure attachment to the primary caregivers AND later trauma from assholes who sniff out vulnerabilities in people.

I can vouch for Ideal Parent Figure meditation, preferably with some schema therapy and 'chair work' included. I know others who have praised TRE (Tension & Trauma Releasing Exercises).

Yoga is also good, or the Feldenkrais method or Alexander technique if people have bad chronic pain. Getting back into feeling the body is often a big part of all this.

Hmm I basically suggest exploring with an open mind various alternative healing modalities. Ones which focus on the felt sense like Focusing are often good, or body scans or somatic meditation.

Ideally finding a therapist or healer who is good at this sort of work, but again it can be a hassle. Took me a long time and wading through a lot of bullshit to find people who could help me, but it was worth it.

So you think that stored emotional trauma causes, say, leukemia? Or cystic fibrosis?

Hmm, good question. I would say they exacerbate it. I think that these diseases often come from or at least are made worse by massive emotional trauma. You can fill in the word "stress" which effects these things.

Not all though. My claim was too strong.

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