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Well thanks for the reminder, pointed as it ever is lol.
Yeah the Jewish lobby is super powerful. Not surprised, seems like most well funded and well connected lobbying groups are able to just raid the budget indiscriminately at this point.
Well, in the media this has been thoroughly debunked, is the thing. I've seen several 'fact checks' about it in the last day or two. So SS up there is right to point it out.
Does this still move the truth needle for you? Because it doesn't for me at all.
I'm not claiming that SS is correct, or even that they are posting in good faith. But you seriously can't consider the media "debunking" something to matter at all in 2024.
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The Nonprofit Security Grant Program is clearly a case of non-profits bellying up to the public trough (and thus a funding source for Left, Inc), but $300 million is the total, not what "the Jewish Lobby" is getting, the way our local Schutzstaffel implies. The FEMA site has awards broken down by geographical area but I cannot find the actual recipients.
H/T to @coffee_enjoyer he provided the numbers:
Maybe this ratio has changed slightly. I remember reading, hilariously enough, that Jewish NGOs pledged to host virtual trainings for representatives of other Faiths on how to apply for the grant. But that training is not necessary because the Goyim are too stupid to fill out forms, the training is necessary because they lack the Chutzpah to fathom that they are entitled to hundreds of thousands of dollars from FEMA for literally no reason. The Chutzpah-training is their attempt to make this less glaring than it actually is.
That's when it was a lot smaller than it is now -- Jewish groups were getting $9.7M of $10M or thereaabouts, but now the total budget is $300M. I would expect that most of the increase is new groups bellying up to the trough.
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No, it’s mostly that Islamist attacks on churches are pretty much nonexistent in the US, limited as they are primarily to Islamic countries like Egypt and France. By contrast, violent extremist attacks on US synagogues from both them and your own ideological peers are more likely and in the latter case already more common.
Actually, violence at churches is far more likely owing to, erhm, the demographics of certain congregations. They can pay for their own security like every other organization in the country has to. Lobbying for hundreds of millions on the back of a propaganda hoax is despicable behavior.
You obviously knew I was referring to violence at churches caused by non-congregants or people not part of the demographic and cultural community of those in the congregation.
The money wasn’t off the back of a propaganda hoax, it was off the back of the very real Tree of Life terrorist attack and the fact that wignats and Islamists have attempted to murder congregants at many synagogues in Western countries over the last fifteen years. If no white nationalist attempts to murder American Jews at a place of worship over the next few years, I’ll concede I’m wrong. Sadly, I don’t think I will be.
Funnily enough, someone close to me is deeply involved in Church work and distressed dealing with a homeless person who is causing security concerns. Too bad she isn't Jewish, so she has to figure out how to finance security from the church budget, like everybody else in this country who pays for their own security.
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The money was off the back of the propaganda hoax, the ADL literally coordinated with other Jewish groups to use the story to pressure Congress to increase funding for the program. They actually linked to their own lobbying efforts for funding in the midst of their reporting about the "National Day of Hate," which also directly caused the mobilization of police forces across the country to respond to this totally fabricated threat.
And why should that matter? Crime whether committed by congregants or non-congregants is a risk faced by all religious institutions. The evidence shows that Churches are more likely to experience violent crime than synagogues, the fact that crime tends to be more intra-community wouldn't undermine the greater need for security at those places.
The Nashville shooting at the Presbyterian church parochial school by the transgender shooter was only last year. There will likely be many more attempted murders at many Christian institutions across the country than any Synagogue. There's no empirical basis other than hysteria and political influence to warrant this funding which is almost entirely going to Jewish organizations.
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Last time the motte managed to pull the actual numbers they were, perhaps unsurprisingly, disproportionately Jewish but had plenty of churches in the mix- and the percentage was increasing. Church security is a growth market while Jewish organizations are already at maximal paranoia, so this is unsurprising.
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