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I’m not sure how deliberate it is, but I find it kinda weird just how often the values of the elite just so happen to be things that are absurdly destructive when practiced by lower class people. Not getting and staying married, not working hard and striving at every chance, not avoiding drugs and alcohol, behaving wildly in general, and so on — all of these things will make it much harder for a poor person to gain wealth.
Its not weird at all. First off, money is a great insulator against the consequences of poor behaviour. Secondly, those aren't really the values of the elite. The higher your class the higher the likelihood that you stay married, people don't strive at every opportunity and people in over-consume drugs less.
Finally the things listed makes it harder for everyone to gain wealth (except striving), but the already wealthy do not need to, which is another reason why they can have a degenerate lifestyle without as disastrous consequences.
The elite value the freedom to do what they want and don't care about what happens to other people (or rationalise their preference as an improvement for everyone, damn observable reality), unfortunately if you're poor and without strong willpower you're more more vulnerable to the available vices than the elite. Which of course doesn't make things better, it's arguably even worse.
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There's some truth to this, but it's overstated. The cathedral's message to poor women isn't "have your kids out of wedlock" it's "don't have kids, focus on your career and education". This is dumb because poor people are usually not good at school and have careers they are indifferent to at best, so they won't focus on those things. Likewise the message to the poor is, literally, don't do drugs- and this works about as well as the just say no campaign as a whole, but the media pushing back on that message is invented by poor people!
Isn't this the message to all women, and the poor are just poor responders?
The ladies that respond the best to this message and spend years in rigorous study are likely the women it would be best for our civilization to marry while young enough to maximize their fertility.
Kind of. Pop-country has the opposite message and it’s eleventy-bajillion times as Astro turfed and corporatized as anything else coming out of the entertainment industry- it’s just not aimed at the actual poor. Likewise public schools push birth control hardest in dirt poor urban districts.
Pop-country isn't a genre I've much experience with. Any recommendations of songs or artists that encourage young women to ditch school, marry young and have children? Or that are popular amongst the cohort of women that do?
I'd expect schools to need to push hard amongst non-responders.
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As someone who once unwittingly had all his car radio stations tuned to country FM stations, I am surprised that more of The Motte hasn't embraced its "be like my elders: buy some land, marry someone you love, raise some hell, then some kids, and go to church" aesthetic.
As for me, I would describe it like root beer: "insidious, just like The Federation".
I hadn't considered that it was the Classic / New Country mix of 105.1 FM in the 80's that led me to marriage, family and church ~30 years later. I owe a debt to Uncle Dave and Lisa K in the mornings.
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