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Wellness Wednesday for August 21, 2024

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Anybody else use zyns as a productivity/occasional stimulant? Dang they're good

If you are going to use nicotine why not just use losanges? I not really endorsing it but surely is cheaper than zyn..,

probably cheaper yeah I'll look into em

Paradoxically, nicotine products designed for quitting nicotine are often significantly more expensive than regular nicotine products unless your insurance or employer or whoever is subsidizing them. I assume this has to do with FDA approval overhead.

They also tend to be designed to have a somewhat unpleasant user experience, with a very slow absorption rate. The idea is to give you just enough nicotine to avoid cravings, but not enough to give you a buzz.

Oh I didn’t realize that! I guess I’m just on a low enough dosage (I use the 1 mg habitrol losanges he’s) not to notice.

Not enough nicotine in those, and in reality they are obscenely expensive compared to recreational products in my area, anyways.

Should I? What’s the risk?

Personally, I believe that the dose makes the poison and that people are different, and it's telling that the medical literature on the topic is clearly searching for downsides out of a puritan sense that they must exist while not having clear examples of any.

But, I'd imagine that they wouldn't be great for your teeth/gums, especially if you used a lot of them a day. And I'm pretty sure nicotine is addictive, though I've seen zero sign of it personally.

I tend to use a Zyn more or less exclusively when I'm on a long drive, or I need a pick-me-up on a boring workday and don't want to drink another coffee. Two to three times a week at most. I don't notice any craving for nicotine on days I don't, and I've sustained that pace since Easter more or less. They're very pleasant, in that it gives me a bit of a nicotine buzz and a little bit of energy, along with a little pop of flavor and a sense of "something going on" that on a long drive or boring doc review I might otherwise fill with a snack.

That's where knowing yourself comes in: while I've never really used hard drugs, I don't tend towards addiction to the soft ones I have used. I notice the pattern of behaviors in other people's descriptions of their relationship with weed or alcohol or nicotine, and I don't identify them at all. My relationship with alcohol, weed, kratom, modafinil, nicotine has mostly been one of having a vague idea of trying it or "getting into" it, then ignoring it entirely and forgetting about it in my cupboard. While my wife, who is by no means a person "with a problem," will tell me a couple times a year that I need to hide the weed from her. My friends, who I don't think are alkies, will talk about fighting the urge to have a drink as soon as they get home from work. I don't feel any of that.

Idk exactly I mean nicotine can be addictive, and apparently there may be some heart issues associated with long term use?

Idk @FiveHourMarathon would know more than I do he has written about nicotine before iirc

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