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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 22, 2024

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I think this sounds like a general push towards post modernism, a pushback on the notion that there's any correct way to do anything. They're not just against prescriptive linguists, they're against prescriptive anything. In an anti-prescriptivist mindset, someone may use prescriptive linguistics as a cudgel to shut down alternate ways of expression, and (of course) enforce colonial and white supremecist standards on unprivileged minorities. This especially comes up in conversations about double negatives, which are commonly used in various low-class English variants, like ebonics.

Indeed, just another way to cope with the lower verbal abilities of non-Asian minorities :always_has_been.jpg:

See also: “Other ways of knowing” for a more modern example with regard to lower non-Asian minority test scores and academic achievement.

Who? Whom?, as always. It’s open season to mock rural white Americans for their accents and vocabulary, but ebonics are to be worshipped as if they’re channeling the voices of Shakespeare and Nabokov from the beyond.

mock rural white Americans for their accents and vocabulary

channeling the [voice] of Shakespeare... from the beyond

Even though the rural Americans sound more like Shaksper Sheakspaer Shakhspere that playwright from Stratford-upon-Avon than a $CURRENTYEAR1 BBC announcer does....

Uh, aren't the English dialects most similar to Shakespeare northern British ones, particularly Scottish English?

Red dirt English(rural northeast Texas and the Oklahoma lowlands) is probably the most conservative American dialect, true, but a lot less so than Scotland or rural northern England.

Supposedly the American English dialects most similar to Shakespeare are Appalachian (so rural, but hillbilly rather than redneck). Of course these reconstructions are always questionable. For instance, just because a rhyme wouldn't work unless you pronounced a word a certain way doesn't mean it was pronounced that way; Shakespeare may have used an obsolete or novel pronunciation to get his rhyme to work.

hillbilly rather than redneck

I always understood that "redneck" was a general term referring to poor(er) rural, white, mostly southern Americans, including Appalachians south of Pennsylvania, which would generally (though not totally) encompass "hillbilly" -- a person living in rural Appalachia or the Ozarks -- rather than excluding it. ("Hillbilly" is also generally more derogatory -- or at least some people seem to think so; I definitely recall people trying to make a distinction between "rednecks" (themselves) who were, well, definitely Appalachian rednecks and probably hillbillies by most people's estimation, and the "hillbillies" who lived way out in the boonies.)

Is it common to interpret the terms as mutually exclusive, or am I misreading your sense here?

"Redneck" comes from the sunburn a farmer would get working in the fields, "hillbilly" refers to living in the hills (the Appalachians and the Ozarks, mainly).

As to whether they're exclusive, I always considered them such (if you were a hillbilly you weren't a redneck). I don't know whether the people referred to think so, though there's a scene in Ozark which indicates at least one writer does.

Both terms are generally derogatory, though they've sometimes been adopted by the referents.