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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 22, 2024

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I think she was trying to ambush them, which is why she had the pot boiling to begin with. Her motivation is likely “being crazy”. That said, the shoot could have been avoided by backing off behind the corner, but the cop may have had other considerations such as protecting his partner. It’s pretty hard to say from the videos.

The cops literally told her to go get the water, and then proceeded to shout at her for holding the water.

I'm normally against credentialism but wouldnt mind a 4 year degree requirement to become a cop, if only to filter out idiots like these from ever having any power over their fellow man.

That’s completely wrong and the opposite of what happened

I don’t hear the cop telling her that at all. There’s a boiling sound, I think, then Massey looks up from her purse. Then:

Massey: “One second, ” and she gets up.

Cop A: to cop B “Check on (her?)”

Massey: “… let me get this” she goes to the stove.

Cop A: “Oh(?), we don’t need a fire right over here”, which I interpret as him assenting to her moving to turn off the stove.

Massey: Turns off the stove, boiling sound subsides. “Let me see” as she picks up the pot. “Alright, OK(?)”, as she walks towards the cop with the pot in hand.

Cop A: laughs

Massey: “Where are you moving?”

Cop A: we don’t see him moving “huh?”

Massey: “Where are you going?”

Cop A: “Away from your hot steaming water!”, laughing tone of voice.

Cop B, simultaneously: “Nowhere.”

Massey: “Away from my hot steaming water?”

Cop A: “Yeah.” Not so laughing anymore.

Massey: “Ahh, I rebuke you in the name of Jesus.”

Cop A: “huh?”

Massey: “… rebuke you in the name if Jesus”

Cop A: We see his hand on his weapon already, before Massey finishes her sentence. “You better fuckin’ not or I swear to God I’ll fuckin’ shoot you right in the fuckin’ face!”

Massey: says something, I don’t know what.

Cop A: Unholsters weapon, aims at Massey.

Massey: Ducks behind counter: “OK, I’m sorry!”, other angle shows she has no pot in her hand after ducking.

Cop A: “Drop the fuckin’ pot!”

Cop B: “Drop the fucking pot!”

Cop A: “Drop the fuckin’ pot!”

Then view is blocked, we hear shots etc.

At 13:50, the cop tells her to go check on the burner because they don’t want a fire: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HFun2GydGyU

Check on the burner does not mean “pick up the boiling water and approach us with it”, it doesn’t even mean turn it off although that it implied

You guys are seriously reaching with this.

She walks to the stove, turns it off, then carries the pot to the sink and it sounds like she dumps out the water and starts rinsing out the pot. You can hear the water running. In fact, at 16:20 here: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HFun2GydGyU you can even see that the sink is still running.

At 28:18 here in that video you can see that she has set the pot down in the sink, and when she cowers down after he starts pointing his gun at her, she only has the pot holders in her hands.

There’s no evidence she is rinsing out the pot. I have no clue where you’re getting that from.

You see her walk to the counter, get some hot pads, then walk to the stove and get something, then take it to the sink and turn on the water.

When she starts cowering down when the cop points his gun at her, she no longer has it, and later after he has shot her in the head and he is doing something to her dead body, you see that the sink is still running.

What do our think is the something that she got off of the stove, or why might she have turned on the water?

As far as I can tell, she already got up to go to the stove before he said anything. He points towards the kitchen, the looks up, says “One second,” and goes to the stove. I don’t quite understand what the cop says after that, he seems to be talking to the other cop maybe, but the “we don’t need a fire” part is said when she’s almost there. And then why is she even picking up that pot and walking towards the cop with it?

?? Are you watching the video? He points to the stove and says “check on the burner”, she then gets up, and then when she’s halfway there says “we don’t need a fire while we’re here”.

When he points to the stove and says “check in the burner”, she’s sitting on the couch.