We need to have a discussion some day about what was the actual bad thing about the Nazis.
Was it the Hugo boss uniforms?
The music?
The German language?
Swastikas maybe?
Is nationalism itself bad?
I’ve always understood that the bad thing the Nazis did was load 6 million people or so onto train cars and drive them to industrialized killing factories. The bad part was hunting down people they didn’t like and killing them. It was all the torture and death and so forth.
edit: guys I'm being a little hyperbolic here. Of course the atrocities of the Nazis went substantially beyond just the holocaust. I'm saying that it wasn't the uniforms, or the colors red black and white, it was the violence. When people call Elon Musk, for instance, a Nazi, it comes across as stupid.
I keep seeing people get called “Nazi” for like…waving at a crowd? Which is very clearly what Steve Bannon, an explicit Zionist, is doing here.
I’ve listened to hundreds of hours of him taking. I like Steve Bannon quite a bit. He is definitely not a “Nazi” in any meaningful way that aligns with anything the Nazis did which was historically significant. Bannon is a pro workers rights, anti big government, anti CCP, Christian Nationalist. The first speech he gave after prison was about how the justice system is racist against black people and we need to fix that. During the summer of Floyd he was taking about George Floyd as a victim of globalism, and while he obviously condemned the riots, he was sympathetic to that exact same things the rioters were upset about.
When Ukraine was invaded, he gave a long monologue about how Zelensky was being brave and defending his people, and how the US was leading him down the primrose path towards the place he is now.
He literally went to prison for his principles.
Bannon is one of the good guys. Hard to put into any of the buckets commonly talked about around here. He was definitely not giving any sort of Nazi salute here.
Stellula
12hr ago
Bannon’s podcast has an incredibly powerful audience. It’s basically a political activism organizing meeting every day.
Maybe not a “king maker”, but he’s a big deal. Much more than just a talking head.
He’s talking about the claim that there was a peace deal to address the disputed eastern territories and that Zelensky, at the recommendation/pressure of Boris Johnson, rejected it.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/22/boris-johnson-ukraine-2022-peace-talks-russia
Stellula
30d ago
What’s the likelihood that this just ALL flops back in 4 years?
Just one giant omnibus EO that every flipping presidential party signs which renames the gulf of America, Mount McKinley, Fort Bragg, re-establishes affirmative action, cancels the keystone XL/Stargate/Moonbase etc?
I’m kind of in shock that for the first time in my life a politician actually seems to be looking out for me, but I’m still cynical. We have about 1200 days to run as hard and as fast as we possibly can, but after that then what?
Stellula
1mo ago
I mean…yeah that’s pretty vague. Yeah if somebody is shouting “heil” and throwing their arm out like that it’s a problem, but I don’t think we should maintain a ban on holding your hand up above chin level or anything like that.
If you search YouTube for “Nazi salute”, this is also almost every result.
The reason I’m searching is: I don’t actually know what a “Nazi salute” looks like. From what I can tell, it doesn’t really have any specific characteristics other than holding your arm out with your palm flat. But this is basically identical to the way that anybody would wave at a crowd.
The whole thing is so stupid. The bad part about the Nazis was the whole extermination of the Jews thing, not the Hugo Boss uniforms, or the hand gestures.
And there’s really no question that Elon Musk is not trying to exterminate all the Jews. It seems like he was waving in a weird spergy way.
Stellula
1mo ago
It could also be an over correction from the USSS. After two assassination attempts you can’t blame them.
Stellula
1mo ago
This interviewer is intolerable. He keeps trying to make these sortof "dunks" or sarcastic remarks, but he just comes across as annoying.
Even if you're not interested in Moldbug, or listening to him, just seeing how bad this interview is is impressive.
Stellula
1mo ago
The other reason they would replace comfortable furniture with wood is that it's cleanable, and much harder for bed bugs to hide in.
Stellula
1mo ago
I keep seeing this take, and it frustrates me.
Somebody was tasked with designing a system to deliver water to fire hydrants. They designed the system in a way where it fails during a fire.
California is a cargo cult of government competence. It's all performative. They make things that look functional until they need to be used and, like the bamboo airplanes, they do nothing when needed.
Stellula
1mo ago
Where does this logic lead you other than genocide of the Russian people and complete destruction of Russia as a nation?
This is the exact logic that the US has used for every ridiculous war we've gotten into for the last 70 years.
Stellula
1mo ago
So what's the plan? Just keep the war going until there's nobody left to kill him?
Stellula
1mo ago
If Zelensky will give up the disputed territories the war ends today, and young Ukrainian men stop dying.
If these Ukrainian people are so intent on fighting to keep control of the Donbas and Crimea, then why the need for conscription?
Stellula
1mo ago
I think you nailed it with why does Zelensky speak Russian first?
And to steel man the point: the people Zelensky really needs to convince are the citizens of the LNR and DNR; those people consider themselves Russian, they speak Russian, and they want to be a part of Russia, not Ukraine. Speaking in Russian does have some symbolism, and the symbolism is “I’m not your enemy”. Refusing to even speak the language of the people you are supposedly fighting a war over certainly signals something.
Imagine Mexico invaded the US because El Paso, TX votes to secede from the US and rejoin Mexico.
What would be the symbolism if the Governor of Texas, in this thought experiment, spoke Spanish first, but refused to talk to the people in El Paso in that language, but instead insisted that he and by extension they, all spoke English.
Stellula
1mo ago
What is your ideal situation here?
The implied trade is: I won’t immediately quit when you want to move everything to azure, and you will train me to use it. Eventually I’ll move on, and you hire a new junior.
This seems…totally healthy? This also seems like the exact type of cycle that H1B workers destroy.
Stellula
1mo ago
Tim Dillon truly is great. Here is one of his all times greatest if you haven't heard it: https://youtube.com/watch?v=U1jPKVQ09-M
Just in the realm of comedians being oddly excellent political commentators, here is Sam Hyde's thing from today: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Hcsm1B8Z8d4
Stellula
1mo ago
It literally comes down to immigration. Bad faith posters will argue that H1B immigration is “legal” and therefor not the problem, but theyre deliberately missing the fact that the problem is H1B visa abuse, which is technically legal, but practically identical to the type of illegal immigration wr see from Guatemala and Mexico.
Stellula
1mo ago
There’s an entire grifter set that I wish we could all just ban collectively (not really, but I wish people would stop falling for them). People like Laura Loomer, Tim Pool, Sam Seder, Kyle Kulinski, Saagar Enjeti, Milo Yionoppolus, and I’m sure many others seem to exist just to post and share comically misinformed takes about current events and rile people up.
Stellula
1mo ago
Maybe we already know each other but are behind seven boxxies alt accounts and won’t ever know it.
Stellula
1mo ago
I’m not comparing US and EU innovation. I’m saying that India, despite having a billion residents, has little to no high tech or innovative companies.
Ariane is not necessary to make my point. You’re arguing against the words here, not the point.
Stellula
1mo ago
Just want to endorse the second part of what you said. It’s probably some of my Catholicism leaking through here, but I am explicitly not a white nationalist. I am an “American nationalist”. We’re a Christian country, we like guns and big trucks and big tits and bikinis and apple pie and baseball and chicken wings and bigass rockets and we consider the moon our sovereign territory. We hate the government, are naturally suspicious of authority.
That has all led to the most prosperous, most badass nation on earth and if you want to be an American you can, but when you get here you need to assimilate, and part of that means having a near-contempt for the country you fled. I don’t want to hear you talking about your ex girlfriend old country for 3-4 generations.
Maybe that’s a good analogy. Imagine you meet a girl in an abusive relationship with a loser guy. You fall in love with her and help her move from the slums to a giant mansion on the coast.
Now imagine she refuses to be seen in public with you, goes to her exes house for holidays, and talks to you about having dual citizenship a polyamorous relationship with her ex, who she also keeps sending remittances money to. Now imagine she also wants to talk about your toxic masculinity (which saved her) and the problematic nature of your wealth.
Yeah no thanks. We’re down to marry the super models (Werner Von Braun), but not so much the cheating gold digger.
Yes it is kindof like that. To take it further it would be a bit like saying: "you can't be a communist if you explicitly argue against communist ideology and start a podcast and spend 3+ hours per day arguing about why communist ideology is bad."
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