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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 10, 2024

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[E]xpecting an artificial intelligence to converge on one very specific metric […] seems doubtful.

The framework under which the whole paperclip analogy was developed was a Yudkowskian framework in which the most powerful AIs would all be explicitly designed to maximize a certain objective function. In the original paperclip story, it’s a paperclip factory owner that has an AGI maximize the number of paperclips produced. The moral of the original story is thus most similar to the classic “be careful what you wish for” trickster genie tales.

But as we all very well know now, this framework which Yudkowsky spent over a decade elaborating upon is almost completely divergent from the current LLM-based methods that have yielded the powerful systems of today.

But as we all very well know now, this framework which Yudkowsky spent over a decade elaborating upon is almost completely divergent from the current LLM-based methods that have yielded the powerful systems of today.

Which of course very much does not mean that we're safe.

At this point if Yudkowsky says something, I accept that as weak evidence that the opposite is true.

I dismissed Yudkowsy as having anything useful to add when I listened to him on Brian Chau's podcast and learned that he has zero practical experience with AI.

This is supposed to be the thing you're most passionate about and concerned with, and you never even bothered to tinker around with PyTorch or something like it? IIRC he didn't even understand what Chau was talking about when he said PyTorch.

Imagine someone who makes their life's work opining on video games but they never actually played one, everything they know is based on second-hand knowledge and their own speculation.

Imagine someone who makes their life's work opining on video games but they never actually played one, everything they know is based on second-hand knowledge and their own speculation.

I am reminded of Anita Sarkeesian's initial Feminist Frequency videos where she claimed to have been playing games all her life then proceeded to make factually incorrect assertions about some games (Hitman, IIRC) rewarding misogynist behavior (murdering women) when those games instead disincentivized it.

Imagine someone who makes their life's work opining on video games but they never actually played one, everything they know is based on second-hand knowledge and their own speculation.

This concept made for a decently successful website though (Kotaku). (And I mean this literally and not just as a jab, that many of their writers often obviously had never even played the games they would express severe outrage about.)

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