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Culture War Roundup for the week of May 20, 2024

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The people that hate you now already hated you in the 90s. Affirmative action was already going strong and third worlders were already ruining nice things with their third world shit.

The difference is just time and accumulation. Mass immigration to the U.S. started in the 1970s and really got going in the 1990s before going insane in the Biden era.

In the 1990s, the effects of immigration weren't that notable in most places even if the seeds were already sown.

And mass immigration was stopped in the 1920s, thereby allowing multiple contentious immigrant groups to assimilate. Furthermore, until the 1970s, almost all U.S. immigration was from European countries. Not counting slavery, of course.

Given that we were near record highs in 2019, imagine what 10 million more illegal immigrants has done to that number.

Efforts to "contextualize" the unprecedented wave of immigration we've experienced post-2020 are typically historically ignorant.

Ten million more illegal immigrants since 2019? What's the methodology for that estimate?

The total illegal immigrant population in 2021 (the latest I could find estimates for) was 10.5M, down from 12.2M around 2009.

I'm having a hard time this comment is being offered in good faith. Do you think the border crisis is just made up and the number of illegals has actually decreased since 2009? All those cities claiming they are overwhelmed... it's all just fake? If so, I can forgive you. Google seems to want you to believe that. They are really, really, determined to skew the information here. It's actually breathtaking how heavily their thumb is on the scale here.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=illegal%20immigrants%20per%20month%202024#ip=1

But, yes about 10.8 million illegals have entered the country since Biden took office:

https://homeland.house.gov/2024/03/26/factsheet-nationwide-border-encounters-hit-nine-million-on-secretary-mayorkas-watch-in-the-worst-february-in-decades/

I'll admit this article has a partisan spin. But it's based on DHS data. I could find an unbiased source if Google would let me or if I felt like running errands.

But, yes about 10.8 million illegals have entered the country since Biden took office:

https://homeland.house.gov/2024/03/26/factsheet-nationwide-border-encounters-hit-nine-million-on-secretary-mayorkas-watch-in-the-worst-february-in-decades/

As far as I can tell you're conflating encounters and people actually living in the country. The article contrasts 70k aliens granted parole into the country vs 256k encounters in February. I don't see how ten million new residents can come from this data.

Why not? Are you claiming the other 186k per month were shipped back to their home countries?

Only 330,000 people have been deported since 2021: https://www.ice.gov/spotlight/statistics

It's not me claiming this, it's the source you provided that distinguishes the two.

For all the talk about Biden and Obama keeping the border secure by performing border rejections and spinning up ICE, no one ever acknowledged that Biden was seen by migrants as the opening of the gates. Migrants are motivated to gp to the USA by promises made to migrants such as DREAM and sanctuary cities, migrants are drawn to europe by weakness and riches for the taking.

The irony of developmental economics is that as western aid becomes more efficient at making poor countries richers, it just gives them resources to make a trip to the promised land. Refugee laws were made when only neighbouring countries would flood your border, now you can get a trip on Air India to Canada or get coyotes to set up food and water and transport on your way to the promised land. The only thing that will stop migrants flooding borders is the rejection of any benefits to these people, including NGOs hiding them from police and illegal work. You westerners have no idea how to deal with these culturally disruptive peoples and the rubber band will snap back soon.

You westerners have no idea how to deal with these culturally disruptive peoples and the rubber band will snap back soon.

The thing about rubber bands is that if you stretch them too much, they don't snap back; they break.