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11d ago
· Edited 11d ago
WP says it's not actually a firing squad; it's a single point-blank shot, apparently usually an assault-rifle hollowpoint to the head (which, credit where it's due, is about as reliably painless as executions get).
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11d ago
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11d ago
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(even assuming that any transplanted organs came from people who had been executed - not a doctor and open to correction, but I imagine a lethal dose of sodium thiopental would probably irreparably destroy a heart or liver)
I don't think the usual injection regimen (anaesthetic/muscle relaxant/potassium chloride) destroys organs - certainly not to the degree that most natural toxins like amanitin, diphtheria toxin or ricin do. The cause of death from lethal injection is failure to get oxygen to the brain, not cytotoxicity, and the brain is far more sensitive to that than any other organ. Obviously, the organs of a clinically-dead body die if not removed relatively quickly, regardless of cause of death, but when you're doing a planned execution that's pretty trivial to avoid. They do also execute people by shooting them, and a shot to the head is about the ideal scenario for a transplant assuming you have the equipment on hand.
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12d ago
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Yeah, this hit our media too.
Are there good examples of the manosphere being successfully provoked in such a manner?
"KillAllMen" and "Boys are stupid, throw rocks at them" would be the obvious ones, although they're old. I will note that these didn't actually work out all that well for the provokers.
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12d ago
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The irony here is that "the morning will come when the world is mine; tomorrow belongs to me" only really needs the first-person singulars changed to plural ("ours"/"us") to become a plausible SJ slogan (at least, in a world without Cabaret).
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12d ago
IIRC city turnout was up. I suppose the Democrats in the cities could have stayed home more while the Republicans in the cities turned out more, but it does look like swing voters to a reasonable extent.
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12d ago
So, if by positive you mean that a majority of Americans have a favorable view of them,
"Net approval" = %approve - %disapprove. "Literally who?" counts zero, as does neutrality.
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13d ago
I'll tell you what that world looks like. It's China
TTBOMK China's more "are you good at passing this inflexible multi-subject exam or not", not "are you especially good at this specific thing", which is almost the opposite of his point. @coffee_enjoyer's scheme reminds me far more of the Soviet Union's gifted-ed programs.
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14d ago
If you actually are opposed to deportations and in favour of abortion, then do it. Nothing wrong with telling the truth.
Otherwise, I wouldn't advise it.
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15d ago
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Can I just ask, for the record, exactly how big the pile of skulls you want to build is?
Are we talking thousands? Hundreds of thousands? Tens of millions? Presumably not billions since, uh, not that many Westerners.
(Disclaimer: I am definitely in a glass house here.)
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15d ago
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That quote has lowered my opinion of him, although he didn't say he wanted it at the expense of the truth.
EDIT: With that said, he appears to have kinda contradicted this since, although AFAICT he hasn't specifically walked it back (besides deleting the Tweet).
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15d ago
Pets are the most protected class of animals in America.
Except us. Choice quote from the IUCN Red List assessment:
Conservation sites identified : Yes, over entire range
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15d ago
It's possible to prove that no Haitians ate cats at any point between X and Y times; continuous video footage of all Haitians for the entire period would do it.
Hard, yes, but not impossible.
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15d ago
If academics and nonprofits don't have a presumption of moral status, how do we justify taking people's money to fund them and using their judgements to rule the people?
I mean, in the "fund" case, it's just "having people research this is diffusely positive for society, so funding it from the taxpayer internalises the externality".
Of course, there are departments whose output is negative for society (obvious nonpartisan example: marketing psychology), which that argument suggests should get no grants and should in fact have to pay the government to compensate society for their "pollution". One can question whether internalising this externality is worth the costs of implementing such a scheme, but the "axe funding" part I'm completely sold on.
how is his preference that "bad left wing ideas should gain power" at the expense of the truth
Where did he say this quote? I can't find it.
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15d ago
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It fully corrupts the parent/child relationship; every member of our society learns when they grow up that their mother once had the fully legitimized option to have them slaughtered, and depending on her social environment and character she may well have seriously considered it. It's a horror lurking in our collective unconscious which we willfully repress, in much the same way that we repress our own mortality by avoiding the thought of hospitals and old folks' homes, keeping them sterile, out of the way, antimemetic.
I'm not actually against abortion, but I have to say you're not wrong about this. I do remember being a kid (7-10 age range IIRC) and telling Mum "thanks for not aborting me", and her not being super-reassuring about it (I don't think she seriously considered it, but I'm damned sure that during my adolescence she often wished she had). It's a bit creepy.
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15d ago
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If your response is going to be, "well, my side is actually right!" then you're isomorphic to an SJW.
Regardless of what Musk does or does not do with Twitter, he cannot create a false consensus by himself, because he doesn't own Alphabet (including Google Search and YouTube), Meta (including Facebook and Instagram), Reddit, or Hollywood (or TikTok, but lol TikTok's a Chinese op and will push whatever's most destructive). Most of these people consume at least one of those.
My point is that having all of the major platforms do the same censorship (and Hollywood and the most-respected legacy media push the same line) creates a false consensus effect.
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16d ago
Social Justice.
Yes, yes, I know most people here refer to that movement as "woke". I don't like using that word. You can, indeed, search theMotte and find that it only shows up in my posts before now as direct quotes. As for why: part of it's that the time when I was semi-on-board with said movement was back when "social justice" was still the usual term. The greater part is that I'm an Australian linguistic snob, and "woke" is grammatically-incorrect African-American slang - i.e. a vulgar term from a demographic that doesn't even significantly exist in my country - so I consider it inherently cultural contamination and also beneath me. I suppose that makes me...
...a Grammar Nazi.
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16d ago
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I agree with @Dean about "Democratic over-reliance on media shaping", but want to take it in a different direction. I don't have the numbers to hand (EDIT: I do now), but I saw an exit poll showing a staggeringly-huge swing among the under-30s - Gen Z, who are extremely online. And what happened online in the past four years? Elon Musk bought Twitter, which shattered SJ's consensus-astroturfing operation; up until then, they'd been seeing a false SJ consensus created by banning everyone who spoke out, but now they see something closer to reality. And I think that gave... call it "social permission" to not vote Democrat; SJ can no longer gaslight them into thinking that voting Republican is lonely dissent.
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16d ago
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- Not all Jews support Israel.
- Among Jews that do support Israel: Biden and Harris have... actually not been particularly pro-Palestine. They got in trouble with the Qur'an-thumpers for this, actually. I guess pro-Israel Jews trusted them to keep to that line?
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16d ago
I appreciate your humility and your honesty, and I think that number's reasonable (with the House being projected to go Republican, even offing both Trump and Vance likely wouldn't accomplish a flip, and Vance-covered-in-Trump's-blood would be far worse for the Democrats than Trump himself, but loonies aren't exactly famed for their rationality). Just wanted to check in on your predictions.
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16d ago
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Well, I get no Bayes points. I had a feeling Trump'd win, but I didn't say it so it doesn't count.
I'm interested to see what Elon Musk can get up to with the Fair Game order presumably ending, although Twitter's still a millstone that he has to figure out how to delegate. Still, that purchase seems to have swung the election - it's the most obvious cause for the young voters turning away from SJ in droves - so I can't say it was a mistake, just something with costs that he has to minimise going forward. Musk MVP, and I think Trump noticed that in his victory speech.
@Capital_Room, @naraburns, and anyone else who wants to: I'm asking you now for a number on Trump getting murdered or otherwise failing to assume power (e.g. faithless elector scheme, fake elector scheme, 1,000,000 fake votes showing up).
Anyone who wants to: Chance on Biden resigning before Jan 21, so they still get to claim "the first female President"?
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16d ago
Living in the blue bubble for the next 4 years is going to be hell.
Only if it remains a bubble. Musk bought Twitter, and it's interesting to note the giant seachange for Trump in young voters, those most exposed to the big social media platforms. Bezos may be starting to exert editorial control over WaPo. I would assume that Vance at least has a plan to dismantle Grievance Studies programs. You might find that that bubble bursts and people deradicalise.
(Or you might find that that bubble literally dies in nuclear fire. Never forget that awful possibility.)
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16d ago
For the record, semen's not always bitter. Urine is horrifically bitter, but semen can be sweet or salty. I hear it depends on diet, though I'm not exactly going to trial a less-healthy diet to confirm.
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16d ago
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I will note that it's possible that Harris will still be President, if only for a month or two. All Biden has to do is resign (or die, I suppose).
Apparently most of them these days are lethal injection rather than the bullet to the head, but as I said I think the organs from the former would still be usable anyway.
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