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Famously, Scott's post on "witches" addresses this. Also, I think EY on "evaporative cooling."

Has a lot of use for modeling the group dynamics of just about anything, whether online spheres or say academia.

he mixes viewpoints that may be aligned against the woke but are otherwise quite distinct

Yeah I'm off the anti-woke reservation.

I was raised religious and it's always fun to have to turn on my "religion modeling circuits" to keep them from totally atrophying.

I appreciate the breakdown from both you and @ToakKraka

Amadan, you are a fucking hypocrite and you're a disgrace of a mod. You constantly spread Zionist propaganda while pretending to be politically neutral.

You intentionally conflate anti-Zionism with antisemitism and deride criticism of Zionism as “Joo-posting”, an intrinsically dismissive term, as if the people who have some concerns about the genocide-in-all-but-name that is being perpetrated by Israel in the middle east are just cuckoo-bananas.

Again in this comment, you create a false dichotomy between “Jews and Jew-haters” as if you can be either in support of Israel, or you must hate the Jews, which is far from the truth. I have no issue whatsoever with the many Jews who live in my neighbourhood, nor with those Israelis who are content to remain within the internationally recognized borders of Israel. I do hate anyone who supports the illegal occupation of Palestinian lands, whether they are Jewish or not. I make no secret of this. Any attempt to conflate that opposition to Zionism to “hating Jews” is obviously disingeneous.

Even in this reply you stroke your own dick by waxing poetically about how you magnanimously tolerate the “Joo-posters” (a derisive term you invented to ridicule those who don't share your pro-Israel bias), as if banning people for disagreeing with you wouldn't violate half a dozen stated rules. Your tolerance of anti-Zionists is only commendable if this is an explicit Zionist space which is founded on the principle of promoting Israels divine right to annex Palestinian land and carpet bomb Palestinian civilians. If that's not a founding principle, you don't get brownie points for tolerating people who are calling out the state of Israel on its gross violation of international law.

I wouldn't be writing this reply if you were just another random Zionist voicing his dumb opinions. In that case, I would just flip the bozo bit on you and ignore your stupid takes from now on. But the fact that you're an actual moderator makes that impossible. I would think moderators should be extra committed to following the rules of the Motte, including being kind, charitable, not antagonistic, avoiding weakmen, not being egregiously obnoxious—all standards you fail here.

Would you find it more ontologically satisfying if the plaintiffs kept filing daily uncontested motions to recertify the class that the court had to sign? Because that's the alternative.

Well yeah I wasn't trying to just pick one at random. But I didn't pick the very largest either.

We could also look at wall street as a whole: 198 income against 856 billion last year.

But of course Hollywood has huge propaganda/marketing value that might be hard to measure.

Here is a list of all the worrying things that China has done over the last year or so, as detected by my forecasting team, Sentinel. Not quite sure what I should do with this.

I actually tried to find which mod made the announcement back when the forum was on reddit but couldn’t. I’m pretty sure it wasn’t Zorba tho (which was my point).

TrannyPornO was one of the best and most interessting contributors The Motte ever had. He also had a tendency to sometimes use rather colorful language. The mods had a policy of escalating bans based on previous bans and their own internal notes and an overactive mod or two who give such notes very easily. This meant that unless you toed the imaginary line of that specific mod, you were more or less guaranteed to end up on the mods’ shitlist with every previous ban being used to justify you getting even deeper on that list.

Thus my suggestion that the most active mods not be allowed to moderate a small specific subset of users.

Meanwhile you could compare that to any large corporation. let's say, Citigroup:

You picked the 99th biggest company in the world, that's not just "any large" corporation, that's a mega-bank behemoth.

Insane how small Hollywood is though, I had no idea

I was lifting and running 6 days a week before I started GLP-1s about six months ago. I've had to stop lifting such heavy weights because it's just too much to do during consistent weight loss. I'm still hitting PRs from running that can be attributed to more than just weight reduction but damn is it slow going.

I'm eating as much protein as I can stomach. It's a challenge.

Unfortunately the best results from exercising come while eating like a pig.

Some have claimed that Ozempic helps with willpower in general.

Anecdotally, I would say the slowed digestion regularizes my mood a bit better. I have fewer moments where I feel really crashed, which sort of helps with willpower.

Additionally, I don't get as many distracting dopamine hits during the day making me seek out snacks or going for a walk to a cafe for a goodie, so that probably counts for some utility gain.

Best analysis of the situation I've seen yet

Ah, I actually practice this kind of law so I can help you out here (not class actions, but mass torts generally). The question isn't so much whether someone who isn't born yet can be a member of a class; it's the more general question as to whether someone who isn't a member of the class at the time of certification can become one at a later date. And the answer is yes, and it's not controversial, although there are some practical effects that make judges less likely to condone this sort of thing in the modern view, though those concerns don't apply here.

Consider a products liability case. ABC Corp. sells a product with a design defect that has the potential to injure people who use it. A bunch of people are injured and a class action is filed. But most people who use the product haven't been injured. If they were to become injured at a later date they would become part of the class, and the court may require the company to put up settlement money in a trust fund to pay damages to people who are injured years or even decades after the case has resolved. This is especially true in toxic tort cases involving hazardous chemicals, where people can develop diseases years or even decades after exposure.

The reason modern courts are moving away from this is because class actions have to give an option to opt-out and pursue an individual claim, but people without standing to sue in the first place are unable to do this (you can't opt out of a claim you don't have). So when they got injured at a later date they would automatically be subject to a class action award that may be getting pennies on the dollar from a trust fund. For example, the Owens Corning Fibreboard Trust pays 3.7% of the gross scheduled value of asbestos claims. And the gross scheduled value isn't what you'd actually get in a real lawsuit, but what value was assigned by the court at the time of settlement, based on the value of cases settled at the time. Fibreboard created the global settlement fund in 1993, at which time they were paying $126,000 on average to settle claims, so a trust claim will get you about $5,000. For a mesothelioma case that would get millions if it went to verdict. This luckily isn't an issue in asbestos cases, where there are plenty of other defendants to sue, but it would be a problem if the entire case was against one company.

I dunno. A lot of people (including the mods) think the Motte is ultimately a doomed project and it's just a matter of how long we can keep it going. So far we've lasted longer than most expected.

Eternal September comes for us all, lets all just be happy we get to enjoy as long as we can. Do not go gentle into that good night.

Speaking for myself, I really do try to apply the same moderation principles to the shit-stirring libtards and the Joo-posters, and unsurprisingly, they both think I am clearly out to get them and run cover for the other guys.

You do a great job, and the fact they both think this supports your great job.

I’m surprised there haven’t been climate change or other environmental lawsuits citing descendants as part of the class. Or maybe there have been?

That’s not Eddie Murphy. It’s Nigerian-British actor Kayode Ewumi, portraying his character Roll Safe from the BBC series Hood Documentary.

You did not say "no"

Why would anyone answer a thought experiment with a direct factual analysis? I wouldn't use the trick calculator because I would use a normal one, or possibly specialized software that has error-checking that goes beyond faithfully calculating my button presses. Wow, I'm so insightful.

I notice that you haven't answered the question either: Have you seen humans? I personally see dozens of humans on an average day, but I wouldn't want to assume anything about your answer.

I know its long but seriously watch the video essay on Badness = 0 I posted up thread. It is highly relevant to this conversation.

Where's the relevance? Was it "Using an LLM to answer your questions will cut your workload by 99% but not 99.99% because you have to follow one link to confirm its response"?

0-6:00 Detail orientation!

6:00 - 9:00 Instead of watching >100 videos each about 10-30 minutes long and assessing them himself (or using any other research strategy), the author used a (now) old model with 5% the parameters of GPT4, and it confused a video about error correction algorithms with a video about admitting to and correcting your errors. He got his answer within minutes.

9:00-12:00 Intro to LLMs and his toy example.

12:00-19:00 BoVeX, which is a typesetting software he made that rewrites text to eliminate "bad" breaks in text (e.g. hyphens, overspacing).

19:00-22:00 Conclusion/credits.

advanced by Volokh among others

As the number of principled civil libertarians out there actually fighting for rights continues to dwindle, it's always something of a shock to read one of their names in the wild.

Sorry, I'm not trying to speak for you, specifically.

I am assuming that maiq, who thinks the people in charge of crappy media got their jobs "without ever meeting a person that isn’t upper middle to upper class professionals," would view such volunteering as a stunt.

if it's significantly less common

Sure. But is it? Do you have any reason to believe that the modal screenwriter used to be more in touch? Because I keep running into examples that look pretty similar to today's.

For example, I go long periods between officially donning the mod hat

I love your writing and read most things you write and didn't know you were a mod until now

Zorba banning the legendary TrannyPorno

Please tell me more, I tried to look up their account but it 404'd so I can't even see the context.

Sure, I'm not trying to say it's impossible that anyone I know has been to jail. My point is merely that if they never told me about it, then I can't possibly be classified as having mental blinders about the topic. Nor can I be classified as someone who knows someone who has been to jail on trumped-up charges, because there isn't evidence to say that. Thus, it's a false dichotomy.

Instead European Jewry was first encouraged to leave, then pushed toward other countries as refugees, then massively conscripted as a slave labor force with zero compassion or concern about their wellbeing, then basically liquidated as convenient when resources ran low so as to conserve resources for Germans and the war effort in general.

Is this a controversial take amongst the left/zionists? Isn't this what happened, who pushes for a more extreme "industrialized" story than this? I'm pretty sure this is exactly what I learned in my extremely leftist primary school (we watched Schindler's list in grade 7).

Eh, you can't have a forum dedicated to political discussion and complain when people hold opinions you disagree with.

I think he's complaining that the people he disagrees with get free reign, and the people he doesn't disagree with (no idea what he agrees with) get shit on by both the community and occasionally mods.

I'm pretty sure this is about the AlexanderTurok ban slapfight last week

"immense pain in the ass" this is referring to AlexanderTurok's most recent ban