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Tbh it's a pretty vile thing to say, trivializing the unbelievable amounts of human suffering that are occurring.
Which seems more vile to you?
"We should maximize the devastation of the war to get more women outside the war zone"
or
"we should maximize the devastation of the war to maximize the number of Russians killed and Russian wealth destroyed"
...Like, where is the "vileness" supposed to be coming from? We're well past the point where people here make straightforward arguments in support of maximizing the misery of others because it provides benefits for ourselves.
The callous disregard for male life in the pursuit of matryoshka pussy?
Is it THAT different from much more popular "any Russian killed is a Russian who will not invade western countries"?
Eh its mildly different as it "triggers" the past-mra in me. The "male disposability" is a well cliched concern.
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I think we can set the bar a little higher than "not the absolute vilest possible (relevant) thing you could say".
The later appears to me to be a mainstream position, not "the absolute vilest possible relevant thing you could say."
I seriously doubt there are very many people who want all that death and destruction for its own sake, at least excluding Ukrainians directly affected by the war. I'd like to think that's something people want instrumentally if they want it at all, certainly not as a terminal goal, and that most would prefer to minimize it all else being equal.
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I'm totally aware its a very vile thing to say, but my question is how vile is it to think? Maybe my model of my fellow man is way off, but I would be surprised if you explained the idea to 100 (non Russian/Ukrainian) men at least 30-40% don't buy into it. They would do it mostly secretly, but deep down in their hearts, they know what they want.
It is a socially unacceptable thing to say in the light of day (in comments that might be made public). I cannot tell whether you really think it is vile. For example, if someone did say it (giving voice to what you believe to be the sentiments of at least 1/3 of the male population), would you think that it revealed a serious moral defect in the speaker?
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You're not alone: https://youtube.com/watch?v=oXMjtVnLD4o
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Can't really respond to your thought experiment because I am Russian, so I feel like I've earned the right to wish my fellow male countrymen to go and gamble their life away.
What would be the version of your proposal from the Russian perspective? Chinese women fleeing from Taiwan war? American based tradgirls fleeing from civil war? Go ahead, tempt me with something plausible.
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