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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 25, 2023

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you have to be willing to endorse things that they call 'racism' and you don't.

Well, the whole issue seems to be the Hlynka does find it racist, and isn't just applying the labels of the other side. There's something to be said about this not helping your win, but every once in a while people are going to discuss what they actually believe, rather than using arguments to win the Culture War. It seems to me we're in the former scenario rather than the latter.

Republican Good People fall for the purity spiral and back away from anything the Democrats call racist (such as the idea that black people commit more violent crime than would be expected based on population)

If Democrats have the power of defining 'racism', and he's purity spiraling, why doesn't he go all the way, and tell us how anti-white racism is ok because of our white privilege?

I don't think he ever denied the fact that black people commit more crime, or called pointing that fact out racist. My impression is that the contention is about the reasons why they're doing it, and I think I have a firm grasp over why each sides takes their respective position on that debate. What I don't see is how "Dems are the real racists" enters into it. From what I understand, you believe that his framing it this ways plays into the Dems' hands by allowing them to point at things like the differences in crime rates as proof of "systemic racism". I think this is wrong for two reasons:

  • He does not seem to buy into the idea that crime rate differences are proof of racism any more than you, or anyone else here.
  • As you said yourself, the Dems define what is racist, so the framing he chooses is irrelevant. No matter what he says he will be racist, so his framing does not play into the enemies hands any more than yours.

Well, the whole issue seems to be the Hlynka does find it racist, and isn't just applying the labels of the other side.

Worse, then; he's internalized their labels.

I don't think he ever denied the fact that black people commit more crime, or called pointing that fact out racist.

Above he claimed, without any evidence at all, that you can't use demographics to determine who is more likely to shoplift (specifically, p=0.5 -- no significance)

If Democrats have the power of defining 'racism', and he's purity spiraling, why doesn't he go all the way, and tell us how anti-white racism is ok because of our white privilege?

I think he just doesn't like the particular wording.

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