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Along with @TheDag I have ratcheted back my drinking considerably. My med check in October revealed a dodgy eGFR suggesting my kidneys are in pisspoor shape. But when I drink it's lowbrow. There's something called 発泡酒/ happoushu in Japan that's not quite beer (fewer hops or something, or maybe more hops) and is cheaper than even Asahi Super Dry, amd my go-to is one made by Suntory called 麦地とホップ. Yeah. I am drinking one now and cooking down some beans and chopping peppers for fajitas. I also drink vodka. The other night I had some Jack Daniel's. If it's wine my preference is Spanish in particular anything from the Rioja region. There's a nice cheapish one by Marques de Riscal which is a Tempranillo..
Non alcohol wise, does anyone else like Lapsang Souchong tea? My fave and hard as hell to find here. My stash I brought from the US. I also have some lovely Jasmine tea given by a former student who is apparently Chinese, though I never realized.
Edit Is it Daniel's or Daniels?
Are you a nihonshu fan? There's a lot of jizake where I live, it's one of my weaknesses, especially a warm glass when it's cold.
I've never developed the taste, and after a rather punishing hangover years ago brought on by a foolishly long drinkup I've never gone back. What brand do you prefer, if any?
The trick is to find a Japanese friend who enjoys it and asks what's good locally. The national brands (Ozeki, Gekkeikan, etc) are mediocre and overpriced IMO. Assuming you live in greater Tokyo, there's lots of good stuff to choose from depending on your taste. I'm a big fan of dry floral sakes and sakes that you can heat up. If you're not sure what you like, head to brewery that has a tasting.
My "daily driver" is probably Daisekkei -- slightly sweet but not sugar, very delicate aroma, heats well. Delicious on a late summer or eaely autumn day. Now it's getting cold here so it's Nanawarai time -- when heated, it's dry and sharp, almost a bit spicy.
You should also try unfiltered nigorizaki. It's like amazake in thickness, but more alcoholic. Some places also sell "doboroku" which tastes even coarser and is supposedly similar to peasant homebrew sake way back then. Tasty but not something I'd drink every day.
Back in the day I was in a smallish town in Wakayama and they had a local brand called 鶴の滝 or "falling crane" shōchū and I was introduced to it by a woman I worked with. I remember liking it, drinking it お湯割り in winter. My wife's hometown (or near enough) is where they make しろ, which is of course popular nationwide, but they also make all kinds of kuma shōchū (kuma is the place name obviously) and rave about it. The menfolk down there start with beer (never with rice, if you're eating rice you aren't drinking, and vice-versa), then eventually move into shōchū after the first tallboy. I have a friend (American) who swears shōchū is a clean drunk, i.e. he never gets a hangover if he sticks to it. The reason mine (my hangover) was so bad back in the day was probably due to mixing (it was New Years in the Japanese countryside with the whole extended family back so god knows what I actually drank, but really bad sweet Japanese wine was part of it.)
I've had nigorizake and enjoyed it--it was similar in my mind to that Korean makkori but I may be way off. Both were opaque, that might be as far as the similarity goes. I prefer nigori to regular sake actually, but only cold, and in a little box. I've a pair of chokkuri and an o-choko that a ceramic-inclined friend of mine made for me long ago that go to waste most of the time unless I have guests from abroad and want to pretend I'm Anjin-san.
"To health, wealth, and a steady hand."
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a fellow happoshu enjoyer. I find it hard to distinguish from "real" Japanese beer, and it's quite a bit easier on the wallet for sure. Liquor being so cheap here is the real win though, I can get imported US bourbons for cheaper than in the states...
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Spanish wine: Try Matsu El Recio. Really good for the price.
I'll look for it, thanks.
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