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VoxelVexillologist
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Aren't there some lingering-even-now vestiges of the Reformation that resemble this description? Ireland is the example that comes to mind, although I can't speak to church attendance among the parties in the Troubles. In the US, sentiment against Italian and Irish (and more recently, Latin American) immigrants was at least partly driven by the Catholic-Protestant divide. I think the history of the Dutch Flemish-speaking parts of Belgium would suggest that distinction is similar vis-a-vis The Netherlands.
Some Cajuns still disown for apostasy from the catholic faith(and I myself have a cousin we do not speak to). IRA members don’t go to church, and didn’t when irelands church attendance rate was extremely high either.
Among the eastern rites, Maronite and Ukrainian Catholics are known for their obsession with their catholic status even when it doesn’t entail waking up early enough on Sundays to actually make it to mass very often, and St Thomas Christians have the st Thomas Christian identity regardless of how well they actually adhere to the faith.
Ireland is the example that comes to mind, although I can't speak to church attendance among the parties in the Troubles.
It depends.
The Unionists took their religion seriously, with leaders like Ian Paisley.
The Republicans (IRA and various splinter groups of splinter groups) were "catholic" only in the sense that "I never go to church, and the church I do not go to is Catholic church).
It is no accident that the Irish Republicans gained sympathy and support worldwide while the Unionists had no allies, even in mainland Britain few were sympathetic to their struggle, most Brits saw Northern Ireland as nothing than millstone on their neck they should be better off without.
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Aren't there some lingering-even-now vestiges of the Reformation that resemble this description? Ireland is the example that comes to mind, although I can't speak to church attendance among the parties in the Troubles. In the US, sentiment against Italian and Irish (and more recently, Latin American) immigrants was at least partly driven by the Catholic-Protestant divide. I think the history of the
DutchFlemish-speaking parts of Belgium would suggest that distinction is similar vis-a-vis The Netherlands.Some Cajuns still disown for apostasy from the catholic faith(and I myself have a cousin we do not speak to). IRA members don’t go to church, and didn’t when irelands church attendance rate was extremely high either.
Among the eastern rites, Maronite and Ukrainian Catholics are known for their obsession with their catholic status even when it doesn’t entail waking up early enough on Sundays to actually make it to mass very often, and St Thomas Christians have the st Thomas Christian identity regardless of how well they actually adhere to the faith.
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It depends.
The Unionists took their religion seriously, with leaders like Ian Paisley.
The Republicans (IRA and various splinter groups of splinter groups) were "catholic" only in the sense that "I never go to church, and the church I do not go to is Catholic church).
It is no accident that the Irish Republicans gained sympathy and support worldwide while the Unionists had no allies, even in mainland Britain few were sympathetic to their struggle, most Brits saw Northern Ireland as nothing than millstone on their neck they should be better off without.
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