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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 25, 2023

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What is the motivation, then? These people don’t literally believe blacks are magic, and affirmative action doesn’t on average do anything except make everything very slightly worse(and piss people off).

If steel manning I think the motivation is something like that there is some value in young disenfranchised black kids seeing that their skin color is not alone an impenetrable barrier. Are their voices actually being heard because a rich lady who happens to be black gets a position? Maybe not. But it's not nothing to know that if they escape poverty they too can aspire to any position.

These people don’t literally believe blacks are magic

Not to be snarky, but are we sure of this?

There does seem to be a lot of magical thinking applied to not just black people but “diversity”. It’s taken for granted that without black people (slavery), America wouldn’t even exist. (“Slaves built America.”) Just look at the purported benefits of diversity. Without diversity we wouldn’t have creativity, innovation, social cohesion, social justice, or equity.

It’s hard to square these claims with reality in any realistic, non-magical way.

I'm quite sure that affirmative action's advocates in academia don't literally believe blacks are magic.

Now to be clear I do think some of the current generation of racial nonsense is driven by anti-white sentiment, either self hating whites or academically inclined resentful minorities. The difference between the two is obvious from their writing styles, and to be fair, most of the people spreading these sentiments are mostly around whites that I don't like very much either(but not because they're white). But that's a different issue and the idea that "white people are incapable of creativity and can only invent things by stealing them from other races" doesn't imply other races are magic, it implies whites are evil and/or defective.

Without diversity we wouldn’t have creativity, innovation, social cohesion, social justice, or equity.

Of those, the last two are literally buzzwords made up to justify diversity, social cohesion may be factually wrong as a benefit of diversity but it doesn't require magic, and creativity and innovation are synonyms which have perfectly plausible explanations for why diversity helps- getting people with different ideas brainstorming leads to new ideas much better than if people think the same.

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And if you ask who did build "this" house, Bob is the factually correct answer even if some other house would be here otherwise.

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