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Wellness Wednesday for July 19, 2023

The Wednesday Wellness threads are meant to encourage users to ask for and provide advice and motivation to improve their lives. It isn't intended as a 'containment thread' and any content which could go here could instead be posted in its own thread. You could post:

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Thesis statement : Targetting-based 3 pronged model for conceptualizing negative emotions

Placeholder comment about a rough new (reinventing the wheel, or just bad at a google?) model for handling negative emotions. If this gets any interest, I'll try to make a longer comment on it.

Single-source past derived negative emotions can be divided along 3 separable lines:

  • Grief or a sense of loss - untargetted

    • unary negative emotion.
    • has magnitude, no vector
    • Can be processed without hurting anyone
    • you don't gain anything from it
  • Regret - Self-targeted or action targeted negative emotion

    • targeted inwards.
    • Can be in association to an action, but usually action that 'you' did or did not take
    • has magnitude and vector, but no real destination
    • wrongly processing it can involve hurting yourself
    • can be used productively to plan decisions in the future
  • Resentment - targeted towards someone

    • targeted towards another person you feel resentful towards
    • is usually in association with an interaction with a person. Either "they did X to me", "they made me do X" or "we did X."
    • has magnitude, vector and a destination
    • wrongly processing it can involve hurting yourself and another person
    • can be used productively to establish boundaries or request change in someone else's behavior

I have recently tried to verbalize the breakdown of grief/regret/resentment that I am feeling when a negative emotion comes up. In my experience, without this model, people can often act out grief by misconstruing it as resentment, and destroying relationships. Similarly, some people will fall into un-identifiable sadness (grief) when in reality they real issue has to do with resentment (and needing to establish boundaries from an individual).

I have found this model to be quite useful for my own issues. Lmk if this sounds useful for you guys too.

If you steal this idea, please give credit. If someone else has done this better, please link.

I was thinking along these lines in regard to anxiety, which is a targeted vector. What it is targeting seems to at its core be imagined events happening or not happening. And I imagine this to be a core emotion in which these other negative emotions are used to "manage" it to various degrees of success.