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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 10, 2023

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Ana de Armas

Two seconds on Wikipedia and you'll learn she's the grand-daughter of Spanish immigrants on her mother's side. Now, maybe her father has some admixture of Native American blood, but going by the demographics of Cuba it's highly likely he's Spanish-descended all the way through. So yeah, guy, she's as European as Mitt Romney.

De Armas was born in Havana, Cuba, and raised in the small city of Santa Cruz del Norte. Her maternal grandparents were migrants to Cuba from the north of Spain (El Bierzo, (Leon) and Palencia)

An autosomal study from 2014 has found out the genetic average ancestry in Cuba to be 72% European, 20% African and 8% Native American with different proportions depending on the self-reported ancestry (White, Mulatto or Mestizo, and Black)

In the 2012 Census of Cuba, 64.1% of the inhabitants self-identified as white. Based on genetic testing (2014) in Cuba, the average European, African and Native American ancestry in those auto-reporting to be white were 86%, 6.7%, and 7.8%. The majority of the European ancestry comes from Spain.

Now, if you really want to insist that de Armas is a "fair skinned Latina" go right ahead, after all I'm sure you would also class Meghan Markle as Black as Michelle Obama.

It doesn't say anything about her father, is he native Cuban? I would assume so.

Whiteness is not a self-id thing, it's genetics. A drop of poo spoils the milk.

Meghan Markle is black. And don't capitalize it, it's uncouth

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I am sure that the Koreans, during the Japanese annexation of Korea, would be relieved to learn that the Emperors of Japan are in fact Korean.

You're arguing the one-drop rule? Well, I suppose historical survivals do crop up now and again.

The Native American or Indigenous population in Cuba (amongst other areas) was Taino, and they seem to have been either exterminated or so intermarried into the replacement African labour (because the Taino kept dying off when the colonists tried putting them to work) and/or the incoming Europeans that they don't exist anymore.

Now, maybe Ana's father claimed to be one-sixtyfourth pure Taino prince(ss) (as I believe dear old AOC was doing recently in her laundry list of 'new identities I'm claiming today') but if we're talking "one drop", you have to accept "dilution".

One drop in a gallon of water is homeopathy, and it's generally agreed that isn't real medicine. Or do you treat all your aches and pains and sniffles with dilutions? On the basis of "one drop of poo spoils the milk, one drop of active ingredient in a hundred part dilution cures my ills"?

You seem to be trying to see how edgy you can be. Your posts throughout this thread are low quality and seem merely to be trying to get a rise out of people. If you really want to argue one-drop racial politics, you can argue that, but make substantial points. And you are allowed to capitalize or not capitalize black as you see fit - and again, if you have a problem with capitalizing it, you can write an argument for why you don't like it, but don't try to tell other people what to do because "it's uncouth."

You've already been told to stop doing this. I am now pretty convinced this is a trolling account, but being ever too lenient, this ban will be for two weeks. Next one, assuming you come back with the same pattern, will be permanent.

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